Trees Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, Eduds1 said: Why would you work for a pittance when you can set yourself up for life, especially in a short career that can be ended abruptly. Before you say he deserted British speedway after using us as a training school, why do you think all these overseas riders come here in there early careers for the riches on offer or learning there trade and then buggar off to Poland or Sweden to make there fortune. Don't you think anybody with an IQ above that of a mump would do the same. He could be setting himself up for life and working here for a pittance if he really gave a toss about british speedway which at the end of the day is the british fans ......... imo. He might as well be a Pole, Swede, Dane, Latvian, American etc etc for all the times we get to see him race and refusing to race for the British fans on the team world stage was the last straw for me personally but of course I am just one insignificant, british speedway fan so it doesn’t really matter ......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduds1 Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 What is the difference in him wanting to make the decisions to set himself up financialy and Doctor's and Nurses being trained by the NHS and decide to work for agencies on double the money or people being trained by one company and the leaving for another for better money. Why would you think any sportsman does what he/she does to entertain the public (a public judging by the comments who don't like him and refer to him as an Australian) and not for the money Don't you think him not riding for GB had anything to do with the muppets who ran the GB team, which now seems obvious with the change in management. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 Woffinden's decision to not ride for GB is the best thing to happen for GB as a team in decades. It has caused an immediate overhaul of how the national team is run.. for the better. As for the pairing, on current form at Manchester.. Woffinden and Bewley. What a future GB has with those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 7 hours ago, ytsejam said: Agree totally. Would be great to see the SCB grow some balls and tell the little ****** where to go! Yeah it would be fantastic! Just the sort of decision making progress that has the sport where it is now in the UK. On its knees desperately struggling to survive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, ytsejam said: Agree totally. Would be great to see the SCB grow some balls and tell the little ****** where to go! No ! The sport needs its biggest star riding. Because he did something positive which, at the time was negative, he got things changed. Good for him and the future of Team GB. Only a fool would not see that. Edited May 9, 2018 by Mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 Lets not forget Woffinden , although not riding in last years World Cup in July was quite prepared to represent Team GB in the World Games at his home track in Wroclaw just 3 weeks later, in spite of his differences with Team GB and before any significant change had occurred. This years finals of the Speedway of Nations will also be in Wroclaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 8 hours ago, Mark said: He didn't ride for well stated reasons. Things have changed with investment so it's had a desired effect. Not sure he did not ride for the reasons he stated ..not sure he's back because of the investment but more likely that the final is l at his home track ..it's amazing that people just take in everything he tells them 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, orion said: Not sure he did not ride for the reasons he stated ..not sure he's back because of the investment but more likely that the final is l at his home track ..it's amazing that people just take in everything he tells them I have to disagree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Eduds1 said: Why would you work for a pittance when you can set yourself up for life, especially in a short career that can be ended abruptly. Before you say he deserted British speedway after using us as a training school, why do you think all these overseas riders come here in there early careers for the riches on offer or learning there trade and then buggar off to Poland or Sweden to make there fortune. Don't you think anybody with an IQ above that of a mump The key is overseas rider ..Woffy is not a overseas rider ..most riders no matter what ride in there own league ...most people can live with the fact he can make more money in Poland and Sweden and does not ride here that is fair enough, but not turning up for the world cup and the British Title is not in most people's eyes . Edited May 9, 2018 by orion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Mark said: I have to disagree with you. ME, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: ME, too So Tai has a vested interest in TeamGB now so he'll get the gig whether he deserves it or not? Some might say bought his way back in.... Edited May 10, 2018 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduds1 Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 21 hours ago, orion said: The key is overseas rider ..Woffy is not a overseas rider ..most riders no matter what ride in there own league ...most people can live with the fact he can make more money in Poland and Sweden and does not ride here that is fair enough, but not turning up for the world cup and the British Title is not in most people's eyes . He most probably had a bad back from carrying the team. When he won the British Title it was simply because it was on his home track, but proved his superiority over the best of the rest with his performance in the WTC final at the new home of the british final and with all things being equal would have won for the last 2 years, perhaps he wanted to give others the chance to be British champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 As the team selection can't be changed for the final we have to go with; Woffinden Cook Lambert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 On 09/05/2018 at 8:27 PM, New Science said: Lets not forget Woffinden , although not riding in last years World Cup in July was quite prepared to represent Team GB in the World Games at his home track in Wroclaw just 3 weeks later, in spite of his differences with Team GB and before any significant change had occurred. This years finals of the Speedway of Nations will also be in Wroclaw Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: As the team selection can't be changed for the final we have to go with; Woffinden Cook Lambert I don't think Cook should be in the team. It's a real shame Worrall is injured - when does he expect to return? I'd go with Woffinden, Worrall and Lambert if possible, if not then Bewley instead of Worrall Edited May 11, 2018 by SPEEDY69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: I don't think Cook should be in the team. It's a real shame Worrall is injured - when does he expect to return? I'd go with Woffinden, Worrall and Lambert if possible, if not then Bewley instead of Worrall See how Cookie goes in the GP's. These bikes are the best he's ever had the pleasure of riding. Worrall would be a massive risk coming back from a nasty injury. I'd say a year to soon to expect him to deliver in a Polish final. There isn't any other choice for me than Woffy, Cook and Lambert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: See how Cookie goes in the GP's. These bikes are the best he's ever had the pleasure of riding. Worrall would be a massive risk coming back from a nasty injury. I'd say a year to soon to expect him to deliver in a Polish final. There isn't any other choice for me than Woffy, Cook and Lambert. I'm sure I remember him doing better than Cook. Edited May 11, 2018 by SPEEDY69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 We need to choose the in form riders at the time. Cook is having problems with his bikes both here and in Poland and even in this week's SS he said that he tried something different at Belle Vue on Monday but it didn't work. Hopefully, he will have got things sorted by the time this meeting comes round and if he has, he is without doubt our best rider after Woffinden and should be chosen. If he hasn't then I would go with Worrall if he is back and fully recovered and Lambert but if not, Lambert and Bewley. I'm not sure which of those two it would be best to have at reserve but it probably doesn't matter as the reserve can be used if whoever is in the team isn't performing. I don't see any other Brits worth considering so may as well let Bewley gain from the experience and who knows he may surprise us not just at the NSS but also in Poland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, adonis said: Bewley and anyone but Woffinden I'll watch , Woffinden in I'm out . Your out. He is a certainty to be picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 29 minutes ago, adonis said: not bothered either way TBH , He's Englands best rider and always will be, while he's allowed to cherry pick when he rides or doesn't and dictate what he wants or doesn't want , he's far bigger than the sport we all know that ,and I don't think the tramp has any more room for tattoes ,so he wont be booking in for any of those instead of riding for his country ,and Our future prospects can sit at home and watch him in all his glory win the world cup on his own , You're spot on here. In what sport could you imagine future prospects sitting at home watching a World Champion and think "I want to achieve what he has'. Disgrace. Get him out, put some lesser riders in there so future prospects can aspire to lower levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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