iris123 Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, uk_martin said: Bradley Wilson-Dean + 1 for New Zealand...oh wait a minute, he rode NL so he must be British...but anyway, hasn't the home of Barry Briggs and Ivan Mauger got 2 riders who they can send? Sure they have two riders.After all a couple of years ago they even had a league of sorts.But what is the point?And do they have the money to support sending two riders to get a hiding?I'd have thought Castagna would be more in favour of a pair from Argentina anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 New Zealand had an rider competing in the world u21 qualifying last year, Jake Turner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 19 hours ago, iris123 said: Sure they have two riders.After all a couple of years ago they even had a league of sorts.But what is the point?And do they have the money to support sending two riders to get a hiding?I'd have thought Castagna would be more in favour of a pair from Argentina anyway Can Ricky Wells not become a New Zealander again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Paulco said: Can Ricky Wells not become a New Zealander again ? Probably could.I was looking at the report about the ice skaters from south Korea where the womans top almost came off and ok she was born in the US,but has Korean parents.Her partner though is American through and through and just got his citizenship for the Olympics.Then today in the paper it was mentioning some German woman who couldn't break through in the national team and has now changed to South Korea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aileen_Frisch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 5:32 AM, adonis said: Lets hope the BSPA/SCB will tell Woffinden to go ride for Poland , the good thing about this series is we don't need Woffinden , so he can go book a holiday or some new tattoes while it's on Words cannot even.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz W Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 I would have a scoring system of 4,2,1,0. Then on the Saturday a pre qualifier with Slovakia, France, Hungary, Ukraine, New Zealand, Norway and Holland. Monday race off 1 Sweden, Denmark, Latvia, Czech Rep, Germany, Slovenia plus pre qualifier 1st, Then Tuesday race off 2 Russia, GB, Australia, USA, Italy, Finland plus pre qualifier 2nd, then Friday& Saturday final. The format could be used for a European club championships, maybe 4 teams from Poland, 4 from Britain, 3 from Sweden and 3 from Denmark to race off to meet the Polish league champs 1 year, the British league champs the next year, then the Swedish, then the Danish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Like many totally underwhelmed. Pleased to see world pairs back but see zero reason why it had to be at the expense of the SWC. Id have run a one day final, old 21 heat format with conventionsl scoring. Top 4 pairs to semibfinals in which points are added to scores from heats. And then top two pairs to a final in which there are double points (6-4-2) to reduce the chsnce of the outcome being known before thevfinal, but still givibg advantage to team which has performed best over the meeting. If you wanted to make it a weekend of speedway, seed host to the final and have three 5 team qualifiers (30 heats) on tge saturday at one venue with top 2 from each to final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 7 hours ago, waiheke1 said: Like many totally underwhelmed. Pleased to see world pairs back but see zero reason why it had to be at the expense of the SWC. Id have run a one day final, old 21 heat format with conventionsl scoring. Top 4 pairs to semibfinals in which points are added to scores from heats. And then top two pairs to a final in which there are double points (6-4-2) to reduce the chsnce of the outcome being known before thevfinal, but still givibg advantage to team which has performed best over the meeting. If you wanted to make it a weekend of speedway, seed host to the final and have three 5 team qualifiers (30 heats) on tge saturday at one venue with top 2 from each to final Actually that would have been a far superior and more innovative competition. Though not as good as the SWC, admittedly. But be careful, many here feel we are are supposed to find no fault with the ideas of our betters in authority. We must look at them with worshipful positivity. And certainly never ever criticise no matter that our views are only intended to be for the betterment of the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 50 minutes ago, Grand Central said: Actually that would have been a far superior and more innovative competition. Though not as good as the SWC, admittedly. But be careful, many here feel we are are supposed to find no fault with the ideas of our betters in authority. We must look at them with worshipful positivity. And certainly never ever criticise no matter that our views are only intended to be for the betterment of the sport. WHEN has anyone ever suggested that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Grand Central said: Actually that would have been a far superior and more innovative competition. Though not as good as the SWC, admittedly. But be careful, many here feel we are are supposed to find no fault with the ideas of our betters in authority. We must look at them with worshipful positivity. And certainly never ever criticise no matter that our views are only intended to be for the betterment of the sport. Agree, it would not be as good as tge SWC. Has there been a speedway event in history which delivered such consistently good racing and exciting meetings as the SWC..its bewildering that its been ditched. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Event 1 is in Teterow on the Saturday. It is safe to assume as it is on a Tuesday that Event 2 will be in Sweden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 MY money would be on a venue nearer to home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Is it going to be one year pairs and the next year SWC as was suggested a while back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 NOT sure ... much will probably depend on whether this one is a success or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: NOT sure ... much will probably depend on whether this one is a success or not Thats confirmed I'll not be attending or watching on TV then. Make sure it fails so we get the real SWC back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 39 minutes ago, SCB said: Thats confirmed I'll not be attending or watching on TV then. Make sure it fails so we get the real SWC back. WITH respect I doubt that will be the determining factor. The FIM will look at a much bigger picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Much prefer the Pairs to the 4TT format. Actual team racing rather than individuals and different teams in every heat, rather than just the same four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 53 minutes ago, topsoil said: Much prefer the Pairs to the 4TT format. Actual team racing rather than individuals and different teams in every heat, rather than just the same four. For me, that's one of the massive negatives of the pairs format compared to the SWC fours format. When I'm watching team speedway, I'm supporting a team. In the SWC I watch my team race in every heat. In the pairs they will appear 6 times in the 21 races. So I have 15 races where there isn't direct interest or someone for me to support. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said: WITH respect I doubt that will be the determining factor. The FIM will look at a much bigger picture. Which is what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Humphrey Appleby said: Which is what? How many Poles turn up for event 3. Because I've been to virtually empty stadiums to watch the race-off in Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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