waiheke1 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Anyone still think Emil v Lambert is a total mismatch, and even with world class team riding there is no possibility Lambert could pass Emil? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 58 minutes ago, waiheke1 said: Anyone still think Emil v Lambert is a total mismatch, and even with world class team riding there is no possibility Lambert could pass Emil? NOT on that particular occasion ... Lambert had seemed down on speed all that particular day, scoring just four points. Emil was flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: NOT on that particular occasion ... Lambert had seemed down on speed all that particular day, scoring just four points. Emil was flying. Lambert was quick enough to nearly run into Emil's back wheel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 minute ago, waiheke1 said: Lambert was quick enough to nearly run into Emil's back wheel... MORE to do with Emil slowing to ensure that Robert had no room to pass up the inside. At no stage was Emil not in charge of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 53 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: MORE to do with Emil slowing to ensure that Robert had no room to pass up the inside. At no stage was Emil not in charge of the situation. All the more reason for a team mate to assist...anyway silver was a great effort, Woffy was fantastic, I think neither of us will change our views on whether the tactics were right or wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just when it was safe to forget what an absolute mess-up GB made of the tactics. You have reopened the can of worms. No change in my opinion. I imagine that Painter et al will have additional media puppets on board and Roscoe kitted out in a waistcoat next time to solve all the problems. Rather than just getting someone with a brain to understand the tactics required to pull off a win that was eminently possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, Grand Central said: Just when it was safe to forget what an absolute mess-up GB made of the tactics. You have reopened the can of worms. No change in my opinion. I imagine that Painter et al will have additional media puppets on board and Roscoe kitted out in a waistcoat next time to solve all the problems. Rather than just getting someone with a brain to understand the tactics required to pull off a win that was eminently possible. No change in my opinion either. Happy to leave it at that but Rosco in a waistcoat. Heaven forbid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 7:52 PM, PHILIPRISING said: MORE to do with Emil slowing to ensure that Robert had no room to pass up the inside. At no stage was Emil not in charge of the situation. Ok i know I said I'd stop but..If Emil was concerned enough about Lambert to slow down to block the inside. Is it not possible that if Woffy had slowed on the inside it would have forced Emil wide? Worst case Emil passes Woffy and Russia still win. Best case tgat inside run from Lambert thst had worried Emil sees him through? They did have a 50/50 head to head record over the two days. And 14+4 vs 11+2 from 12 And 11regulation heats respectively arent miles apart. It's a bit like the England football team - surpassing expectations, but will there be a better chsnce of a world title? (Actually in fairness, Woffy and Lambert could be in contention for the next 10 years in this format) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 12:52 PM, PHILIPRISING said: MORE to do with Emil slowing to ensure that Robert had no room to pass up the inside. At no stage was Emil not in charge of the situation. Exactly. Hence Lambert needed help. What could have been lost? Absolutely nothing. What could have been gained, even if there was only 1% chance of it happening. A gold medal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Exactly. Hence Lambert needed help. What could have been lost? Absolutely nothing. What could have been gained, even if there was only 1% chance of it happening. A gold medal. It seems obvious that no one has had a change of mind on this subject even with hindsight. Usually it does not matter if people have different opinions to me. But in this case the fact that those actually involved remain totally obvlivious to the mistake they made means they will do the same stupid thing again. In those circumstances I will be left with only one course of action. To do "A Trump" And change my National allegiance to support the Russians. At least they understand the bloody rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, Grand Central said: It seems obvious that no one has had a change of mind on this subject even with hindsight. Usually it does not matter if people have different opinions to me. In all honesty, this isn't even a case of opinion is it. You either try to win, or you don't. It's that simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 After looking for one another in the heats then not in the final when it was absolutely crucial was daft at best, unforgiveable at worst. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Still completely baffled why anyone thinks Tai shouldnt of tried slowing down Emil to try and get Lambert through. Its a pairs contest ffs. its more annoying reading people trying to argue against that than the actual Final itself!!!! if Tai had been passed by Emil as a result, who cares... At least he would of tried to get Lambert through. Better to try and fail than to fail without trying. As it stands, imo, the future for team GB looks really good. Woffy should be around for another 5/6 years at his best, Lambert really has come on this season, Bewley SHOULD be at Lamberts level in a couple of years.... thats without all the youngsters coming through. People rave about Polish prospects and their right to at times, theyve dominated the 4/5 rider team world cups for a while now but on the indivdual stage, barring Gollob in about 2011/12 , they havent produced a world champ in my 20 years of following speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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