PHILIPRISING Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 Just now, Midland Red said: Strange how your consensus says one thing, the consensus on here says the other! WHY is that strange. Not too many riders on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 Just now, PHILIPRISING said: WHY is that strange. Not too many riders on here. Mind you. Until the morning of the Tetetrow meeting all the people you had asked kept telling you that the Finals were to be won by the race winner. Some times we all get bum info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, sommelier said: In fairness, I've watched many meetings at the old & the new track & was there Friday & Saturday. Trouble is if Tai had slowed it down, I believe the speed that Emil can generate he would have gone passed Tai, just my honest opinion And if Emil had passed Tai, GB would have lost.....oh, we did anyway. So what difference would that have made? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, norbold said: And if Emil had passed Tai, GB would have lost.....oh, we did anyway. So what difference would that have made? But apart from Tetetrow you must admit you must have enjoyed the 4 meetings, take it you did go ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 GREAT racing at BV by the way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: GREAT racing at BV by the way Superb. You'd think some would be enjoying it, rather than droning on in an attempt to point score..... But hey, strange folk! Edited June 11, 2018 by Jacques 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 Just now, Jacques said: Superb. Yo'd think some would be enjoying it, rather than to drone on in an attempt to point score..... But hey, strange folk! Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Starman2006 said: Big like Brum... Tai did exactly the right thing in the final, you cannot bugger about trying to team ride in those circumtances. Other than that his contrabution was exceptional. Of course you can ...what was the point of not doing so ...the circumstances were coming first and last meant we lost . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 43 minutes ago, sommelier said: In fairness, I've watched many meetings at the old & the new track & was there Friday & Saturday. Trouble is if Tai had slowed it down, I believe the speed that Emil can generate he would have gone passed Tai, just my honest opinion And ? the whole point is that he had to try as we would have lost anyhow ..surely anyone with common sense can understand that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said: YES I do. We will never know but had Lambert held off Sayfutdinov's early thrust Woffinden would most likely have held back to try and help him. But that is a very different scenario to what happened. So why did we even go out on track? Tai and Robert could just have said "Well done, lads", shook hands, and saved methanol and tyres... Come to think of it, why did we even compete? We could have just stayed home as you don't think we should have even tried to win... Steve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, chunky said: So why did we even go out on track? Tai and Robert could just have said "Well done, lads", shook hands, and saved methanol and tyres... Come to think of it, why did we even compete? We could have just stayed home as you don't think we should have even tried to win... Steve HOW many times ... had Lambert got ahead of Sayfutduniv we would have seen a very different race Edited June 11, 2018 by PHILIPRISING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 minute ago, PHILIPRISING said: HOW many mores ... had Lambert got ahead of Sayfutduniv we would have seen a very different race HOW many mores... Had Tai dropped back then we would have also seen a different race. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, orion said: And ? the whole point is that he had to try as we would have lost anyhow ..surely anyone with common sense can understand that . Sorry would love to debate with you but problem is im watching that little meeting going on at BV tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: HOW many mores ... had Lambert got ahead of Sayfutduniv we would have seen a very different race Speedway is a 4 lap race, did you know that? So Lambert didn't get ahead, so you switch to Plan B. Simply chasing the win should NEVER have been an option as it was a losing option. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: HOW many mores ... had Lambert got ahead of Sayfutduniv we would have seen a very different race Why rely on "ifs" ("had Lambert...)??? Had Laguta tripped and broken his leg on the way to the toilet before the final, it would have been a very different race! Have I ever ridden a speedway bike! NO! Have I taken part in competitive sport? YES - at the highest level! On many occasions. I have NEVER approached any event - or single match - with the idea that, "I'm not going to win, so I won't even try from the start. I will just wait and see if my opponent slips up..." I can't believe ANYONE would find that concept acceptable, no matter how much better - or indeed, how much worse - your opponent(s) is/are. When you know what you have to do in order to win, you choose the best option FROM THE START Steve Edited June 11, 2018 by chunky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, TheReturn said: HOW many mores... Had Tai dropped back then we would have also seen a different race. At least that would have been something in OUR control, and not relying on someone/something else... Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, sommelier said: Sorry would love to debate with you but problem is im watching that little meeting going on at BV tonight! Are you ..why or how did you reply if that was the case ? Edited June 11, 2018 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 So BT Sport bottled asking that tough question of Rosco, I look forward to reading the Speedway Star and the post SON interview with Rosco to ask that important question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, orion said: Are you ..why or how did you reply if that was the case ? A Phone!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, sommelier said: A Phone!!!!!! Perhaps others can watch a meeting and also post? Plenty of gaps between races.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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