RobMcCaffery Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Grachan said: And there was me thinking Wales was part of Great Britain. Cieslak said nothing about the track in the article. Phil Morris' name was subtly mentioned in the article by the journalist who wrote it, to tempt readers into thinking the track might have been set up for GB, without actually saying it. Cieslak begins the article by trying to say that he didn't want to blame the track. However if you read on to the second and third paragraph The surface of the Wrocław track for the first final tournament of the Speedway of Nations was prepared by Phil Morris . It was quite wet and differed from the one on which the Polish riders were training at the beginning of the week. As a result, the Biało-Czerwoni were deprived of the strength of their own track. This translated into a poor result. After the first day of competition, Poland ranks last but one with 15 points on the account. We lose 10 points to the British leaders. - I will not talk about the track. They all had the same and rode better on him than we did. We are facing the second final tournament and we will do everything to make it better - said Marek Cieślak after the competition ." No it doesn't directly blame Morris but the implication is obvious ---- unless you don't want it to be for some unfathomable reason. I'm a constant reader of Sportowe Fakty and the message is quite clear "Poland is under attack by the British through BSI". Yes iot's sensationalist but revealing, especially some of the comment sections. Edited June 9, 2018 by RobMcCaffery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Polish manager is moaning that that track was doctored by Phil Morris. Said it was not the same as when the Polish riders practiced on it earlier this week. Said it went against his riders and played into the hands of the Brits. Said he would make sure the track is as it should be tonight. Hope Phil Morris stands up to him and tells him to take a hike. Well they do say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Posted two hours before yours. "It seems that we finished first because Morris fixed the track to favour GB. https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/759465/marek-cieslak-nie-chce-sie-tlumaczyc-torem-wszyscy-mieli-taki-sam Lovely people. It can't be easy being constantly pushed around by all the other speedway countries Edited June 9, 2018 by RobMcCaffery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 I do like the format of the races 2 against 2 it does encourage team riding although apart from Britain and to a point the Danes nobody really got it but maybe that could be incorporated into the SWC and I thought it was great to see a couple of new nations even if the same country’s came out on top but the two day final is a no no for me and on the whole I want the SWC back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Here's another piece from SF. More or less in the middle of the competition, nc + reporter Łukasz Benz during the broadcast said that he was a witness to an interesting conversation between the leader of proud sons Albion and the director of the competition Phil Morris . Woffinden praised Morris for preparing the surface. - Speaking of the track, that's how I will get my word out - said Piotr Świderski, a station expert at the end of the broadcast, sitting in the studio nc +. - Tai praises Phil Morris in the break for preparing the surface and tells him that he is the best this year. Something smells bad for me - he laughed half-seriously. - Such optimism in the English ranks was not from Brexit's announcement - the co-commenters, along with Tomasz Dryła, burned Krzysztof Cegielski . In all of this, nothing would be strange if it were not for the fact that both men - Woffinden and Morris - are countrymen. Case? The classic would say "I do not think" and of course we are far from the conspiracy theories, but if Maciej Janowski, who was almost born on this track and did not manage, it is worth sharing these insights as a curiosity". More insinuation. https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/759457/woffinden-chwalil-rodaka-za-przygotowanie-toru-swietny-wystep-brytyjczykow-nie-b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleco Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Good luck to team GB tonight. Beside Russia, they deserve it most to be champion. I will ask you when did the team GB last time won World pairs championship? And who rode? I think I was on that race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Stanislawski said: Good luck to team GB tonight. Beside Russia, they deserve it most to be champion. I will ask you when did the team GB last time won World pairs championship? And who rode? I think I was on that race. It was 1984. Peter Collins and Chris Morton. It was held at Lonigo. Morton took the inside gates in all of their race so a similar strategy to last night. Edited June 9, 2018 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Aces51 said: It was 1984. Peter Collins and Chris Morton. It was held at Lonigo. ON a blistering hot afternoon. Got sun burned sitting in the uncovered press box! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 58 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said: Cieslak begins the article by trying to say that he didn't want to blame the track. However if you read on to the second and third paragraph The surface of the Wrocław track for the first final tournament of the Speedway of Nations was prepared by Phil Morris . It was quite wet and differed from the one on which the Polish riders were training at the beginning of the week. As a result, the Biało-Czerwoni were deprived of the strength of their own track. This translated into a poor result. After the first day of competition, Poland ranks last but one with 15 points on the account. We lose 10 points to the British leaders. - I will not talk about the track. They all had the same and rode better on him than we did. We are facing the second final tournament and we will do everything to make it better - said Marek Cieślak after the competition ." No it doesn't directly blame Morris but the implication is obvious ---- unless you don't want it to be for some unfathomable reason. I'm a constant reader of Sportowe Fakty and the message is quite clear "Poland is under attack by the British through BSI". Yes iot's sensationalist but revealing, especially some of the comment sections. I could be misreading it, but I think there is very little in there that is a direct quote from Cieslak. The only part that appears to be a quote is: "I will not talk about the track. They all had the same and rode better on him than we did. We are facing the second final tournament and we will do everything to make it better." The rest of the paragraph is the work of the journalist. So, yes, there might be some conspiracy being whipped up by jounalists and fans, but the Polish manager isn't getting involved in those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Who gives a damn what the Poles or anyone else thinks. We sit at the top of the leader board after the first day, and are there on merit. The Poles from the very first race seemed jittery and nervous hence the double warning about starts. Tai was superb, leading the country to a strong possibility of a Gold medal (a long time since we truly looked like doing that on merit). Robert Lambert back brilliantly and seems toi have a great understanding with Tai, and we should carry on with this pairing no room for sentiment which means leaving Craig Cook on the sidelines Finally let hope that Tai is wearing his Union Jack underpants otherwise the haters will have something to batter the lad with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 They have track covers in at Wroclaw today, they said it’s to stop the track baking in the sun but really we know it’s to stop Phil Morris getting near it with the water bowser 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Can anyone confirm this: 2nd. & 3rd. highest scores have a run-off for a place in the final. The winning pair of the final (or 2nd & 3rd. placed if it's 3 - 3) are crowned champions. Therefore you could have the 3rd. highest scores in the heats & become World Champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 30 minutes ago, spin king said: let hope that Tai is wearing his Union Jack underpants otherwise the haters will have something to batter the lad with. You mean he wasn't last night! How can he call himself a patriot? Whichever underpants he wore last night, were the right ones even if they were from Poole ( an old Xmas present no doubt ) But if we do win the Gold Medal ( or indeed one of any colour ) I do think he should show us which ones proved up to the job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ghosty said: Can anyone confirm this: 2nd. & 3rd. highest scores have a run-off for a place in the final. The winning pair of the final (or 2nd & 3rd. placed if it's 3 - 3) are crowned champions. Therefore you could have the 3rd. highest scores in the heats & become World Champions. And That's Speedway Folks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, Ghosty said: Can anyone confirm this: 2nd. & 3rd. highest scores have a run-off for a place in the final. The winning pair of the final (or 2nd & 3rd. placed if it's 3 - 3) are crowned champions. Therefore you could have the 3rd. highest scores in the heats & become World Champions. CONFIRMED CORRECT. What is happening to this once great sport we all once loved? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 The Poles only have to get to third place to win the whole thing. You can guarantee that the track will be different today and the Poles will have different engines with "Polish speed". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ghosty said: CONFIRMED CORRECT. What is happening to this once great sport we all once loved? It's Pan Gone the Down as the press release might say if put out by the BSPA, FIM or any theoretically responsible body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Just now, WalterPlinge said: The Poles only have to get to third place to win the whole thing. You can guarantee that the track will be different today and the Poles will have different engines with "Polish speed". Oh Yes! and that 3rd place to win, will likely net them a Magnificent Form Behind Victory to prove that they still rule the speedway world in two man, four man or seven man speedway. When the Final is in Poland, as it should be because they can make it a financial success there. And when they have even more than three GP's in Poland they will have another World Champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Trackrat said: Makes no sense, stick to discussing potatoes & marigolds mate. Poole ride in Blue thought you may have realised that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Poole ride in Blue thought you may have realised that. Lovely. What's that got to do with the pair's being held at Poole, the best & biggest club in the land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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