BWitcher Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: You will get better results if you employ a headshrink and a good tuner, that’s all that matters in speedway always has always will, your not on track long enough for the rest to make a big difference, if this althlete thing works for an individual rider then great but it’s not for everyone and any motorsport competitor will tell you, you can have the best equipment and have the best team around you and be the fittest athlete in the world but if your head is not 100% you won’t win anything and that applies even more in speedway cause all that belief has to be packed into 100 yards to the first corner and no amount of physical training will get you to that. The two heads are everything in speedway, the one on the shoulders and the one on the barrel, get those right you will go along way It is all part of the package and contributes towards your head being 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Don’t believe everything you read about the poles, why is Jason Doyle not leading the world championship ? Or to.be honest not at the top of his game ? His equipment is the best and his training is at the top so what’s changed ? It’s his mindset, he is NO1 and with it comes a change in mindset, not diet or fitness and that’s why it is so hard to to do back to back titles, notice woffinden has the well known fitness coach Pete Adams back in his corner at GPs, speedway is a head game, personally I just think we will get the same results we would of anyway , in Wroclaw we should be able to get on rostrum as it’s woffinden track and lambert can cut it in poland, I don’t think Cook can but I just think he is too nervous and too wound up to be able to make an impact and you don’t change that with fitness , one place I do think they will make an impact is raising the profile on team GB cause the world is full of that type of people who believe all the add ons is the way everything should be You're so out of your depth on this topic it's staggering. You're adding 2+2 and coming up with 9 to fit your argument. The majority of the top boys take fitness very seriously. Is it the be all and end all? Of course it isn't yet you seem to have got it into your head that is what people are saying. However, don't bother with that side of it and you have a piece missing from the puzzle. Doyle is completely the wrong example to use as it was only when he did get serious that he suddenly elevated himself into the top echelon. You rightly keep talking about the mental side of it whilst remaining completely oblivious to the reality that being physically fit vastly boosts your confidence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 7 hours ago, sommelier said: Whose better than Rossiter, Peter Adams in all departments! Yes totally agree and i would have the late great Dent Oliver on par with Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, BWitcher said: It is all part of the package and contributes towards your head being 100%. If your not a fitness person and there are some that are then doing something that you don’t want to is not good for your head, there are some riders that go into their own little world on race days and being forced against your routine is not good for your head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 And of course all the top althletes in the world recommend energy drinks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: If your not a fitness person and there are some that are then doing something that you don’t want to is not good for your head, there are some riders that go into their own little world on race days and being forced against your routine is not good for your head So you keep claiming... but there they are, the top guys, all concentrating massively on their fitness. There are many examples of folks who weren't into being fit.. and were amazed at how much better they felt both physically and mentally once they actually committed. Then of course there are the others who can't be bothered and come up with all sorts of excuses to not put that extra effort.. you don't hear as much about them though as they're not winning very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: If your not a fitness person and there are some that are then doing something that you don’t want to is not good for your head, there are some riders that go into their own little world on race days and being forced against your routine is not good for your head 100 % fitness can only improve performance. Reaction time at the gate is vital as is reaction time in a race. Its proven in other sports that mind memory excercise improves reaction and anticipation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Mark said: 100 % fitness can only improve performance. Reaction time at the gate is vital as is reaction time in a race. Its proven in other sports that mind memory excercise improves reaction and anticipation. So why is woffinden one of the worst gators in the GP ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, THE DEAN MACHINE said: So why is woffinden one of the worst gators in the GP ? Bless. You do realise that most, if not all, the other GP riders also take their fitness very seriously? I'd also disagree he is one of the 'worst' gaters. Keep arguing about scientific facts Dean, you just make yourself look silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Bless. You do realise that most, if not all, the other GP riders also take their fitness very seriously? I'd also disagree he is one of the 'worst' gaters. Keep arguing about scientific facts Dean, you just make yourself look silly. As I said don’t always believe what you read about the poles, what the public see and what the public doesn’t see are sometimes very different and woffinden’s gating goes from brilliant to shocking in one meeting and he is clever at cutting back on first corner Edited June 7, 2018 by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: As I said don’t always believe what you read about the poles, what the public see and what the public doesn’t see are sometimes very different So you're saying they don't work on their fitness as much as say Doyle, Woffinden, Hancock etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, BWitcher said: So you're saying they don't work on their fitness as much as say Doyle, Woffinden, Hancock etc? All I’m saying is not everything is a perfect as the public persona leads you to believe , they are very normal people Spend some time with them and then you will see why the poles are so good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: All I’m saying is not everything is a perfect as the public persona leads you to believe , they are very normal people Spend some time with them and then you will see why the poles are so good You realise that what you are claiming is only defeating your own argument? Some of those Poles, Zmarzlik for example, are blessed with abundant talent. You're suggesting they don't focus on fitness as much as messrs Woffinden, Doyle, Hancock and that's your argument for saying fitness isn't important? Hmmm.. Let me just look at how many World Titles they've won..... Edited June 7, 2018 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 The thing that Daniel pointed out is that we are trying to bridge the gap which is great and you have to applaud the forward thinking in that.I have heard great thing's about Olly Allen, and the Poultec training regime has been brilliant for a lot of riders.For me fitness in speedway is the first thing you need without that you have no chance of succeeding the mental side is massive also having a trusted team around you.For me though competition is important like test matches at all levels that needs to come back also regular practice sessions and testing can we ever do that because of the pathetic curfew's.?? We have some real talent coming through but as we all know so have the other countries look at Poland outside of the established Poles they have Drabik,Smektala,Kubera and endless others showing potential.A long haul ahead and it is so much more to it than who is the choice of team manager myself personally i would love England to be a major player again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: So why is woffinden one of the worst gators in the GP ? Oh no no no no ! Dual World Champ. Your mate Pedersen is huge on physical fitness isn't he. Edited June 7, 2018 by Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mark said: Oh no no no no ! Dual World Champ. Your mate Pedersen is huge on physical fitness isn't he. He isn’t my mate, I have beat him lol but I don’t know him at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepturningleft Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 New manager? ...bring back Eric Boocock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: He isn’t my mate, I have beat him lol but I don’t know him at all Good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 6 hours ago, waytogo28 said: Rooboy to manage Team Great Britain? Perhaps the right attitude but his heart lies far away and despite the paperwork, he will always be an Aussie through and through. Rory is very passionate about British Speedway and is even helping the youngsters in a project that he is hugely involved in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: So why is woffinden one of the worst gators in the GP ? I didn't know Woffinden was Crocodilian. That explains his prowess on a bike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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