hulvik Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Points make prizes. The fact the GB team are through to the finals is proof those in charge made the right call on the night. I wonder how many people on here would supporting Mr Cook had the management kept faith with him and the team had failed to get through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Aces High said: How is that stupid? Makes it far fairer. Helps give teams with a smaller talent pool (such as GB) compete against the teams with a larger one. So you're saying, we should pander to the weaker teams to make the sport more fair? once again let's water down the sport so the the weaker teams have a better chance. So come Saturday when one of the more favoured teams are about 20 odd pts in front of one of the lesser teams and one of the lesser teams somehow make the final and the favoured team has a mishap and the team who were 20pts behind end up being World Champions. That to you makes the whole thing fairer? Trying selling that to the people who might tune on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, semion said: and If My Auntie had balls..... Fact is Cookie has not started the season well. In The GP he has been blown away, even when he has made the gate Riders have gone past him like he was standing still to leave him tailed off at that back. Whether its the rider, the machinery or a bit of both he isn't the rider he was last season. 100% agree with you, so it begs the question. Why pick him in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Star Lady said: I like Cookie, but with a warning against him it made perfect sense to replace him in the next and the rest as they say is history. Lambert performed so couldn't be dropped. Imagine the comments on here if Rosco had left Cook in, or put him back in for rides 4/5 and he hadn't performed (for whatever reason). I'm no fan of Rosco but last night he did what was best for the team as a whole and that is quite simply the role of a team manager. Do the best for the team without fear or favour. Well said that lady, it's all about doing the best for the team. Apparently Cook himself said to Rossiter that he should put Lambert out when he was considering options later in the meeting, Craig's not daft, as gutted as he must have been he still knew what was the right move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, hulvik said: Points make prizes. The fact the GB team are through to the finals is proof those in charge made the right call on the night. I wonder how many people on here would supporting Mr Cook had the management kept faith with him and the team had failed to get through No problem having Lambert in front of Cook. Current form says that is an easy pick. But why embarass Cook with one ride and then drop him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, nw42 said: Well said that lady, it's all about doing the best for the team. Apparently Cook himself said to Rossiter that he should put Lambert out when he was considering options later in the meeting, Craig's not daft, as gutted as he must have been he still knew what was the right move. That is lack of self belief from Cook and the manager added to that loss by the way its been handled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mark said: No problem having Lambert in front of Cook. Current form says that is an easy pick. But why embarass Cook with one ride and then drop him. And more than likely will be a spectator in the final! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 I wonder if Cook looked quick enough in practise, I guess the answer must be yes otherwise why did Roscoe start with him ? I guess once Rosco had gone with him he had to start him. In the one race Cook had he looked a little trigger happy ( hence the warning) but once the race was under way he made little to no impression on the rider in 2nd race. In contrast Lambert totally messed up in one race being left at the back and only just failed to follow Wuffy Home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 hours ago, geoff100 said: Aint no numpty pal just telling like it is i suggest u watch the first race the brits had woffy was head down arse up.and away , to drop craig after one 3rd place was uncalled for ,and i know because i was their were u ? No I wasn't, so as such I am in a much better position to give an opinion. You saw things once, in real time, I saw them several times, in slow motion. Well done for ruining your own argument.. not that you had one. We understand. You're a bitter Belle Vue fan, still seething over losing the league in 2016. That's all there is to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, Mark said: That is lack of self belief from Cook and the manager added to that loss by the way its been handled. Of course it is but it's the way he's made, not everyone is brimming with self confidence, doesn't mean they can't succeed, unfortunately he's chosen a career that, once you reach the top end, it does require a whole new approach, hopefully he's able to make the leap. I can't fault Rossiter for putting Lambert in and leaving him in last night, Cookie just has to knuckle down and do his best if required at the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 51 minutes ago, tyler42 said: I agree with you, but third was not a bad ride first ride. If Rosco didn't wan't to make a change, then why did he not give Cook the chance to ride in his second heat against the Finns Cook was on a warning. Quite simply, why run the risk? Also the plan was always to give Cook a ride, then Lambert one. Lambert did better. Later in the meeting it could have backfired tremendously putting a cold Cook back in when qualification wasn't certain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, nw42 said: Of course it is but it's the way he's made, not everyone is brimming with self confidence, doesn't mean they can't succeed, unfortunately he's chosen a career that, once you reach the top end, it does require a whole new approach, hopefully he's able to make the leap. I can't fault Rossiter for putting Lambert in and leaving him in last night, Cookie just has to knuckle down and do his best if required at the weekend. As a manager what do you do for a man lacking in self belief ? It's not to pick him as first choice then drop him after one ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, BWitcher said: No I wasn't, so as such I am in a much better position to give an opinion. You saw things once, in real time, I saw them several times, in slow motion. Well done for ruining your own argument.. not that you had one. We understand. You're a bitter Belle Vue fan, still seething over losing the league in 2016. That's all there is to it. I made the journey from workington so no bitter fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 I thought Cook was worth one more go, especially against the Fins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, Mark said: As a manager what do you do for a man lacking in self belief ? It's not to pick him as first choice then drop him after one ride. He wasn't necessarily first choice. I would say that Cook and Lambert were there as equals - and then given a ride each to see which one was better to use. Lambert won his heat so was kept in. It was a common sense decision. The only reason Lambert was at reserve was because his age gave us better options. Otherwise he would have probably been in the top two anyway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, geoff100 said: I made the journey from workington so no bitter fan Ah Workington... Craig Cook... No bias there is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark said: No problem having Lambert in front of Cook. Current form says that is an easy pick. But why embarass Cook with one ride and then drop him. It's just the way the cookie crumbles I guess. Life's like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 I for one am pleased GB have the strength-in-depth that allow us to drop a GP rider and replace him with an u21 who can hold his own. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Grachan said: He wasn't necessarily first choice. I would say that Cook and Lambert were there as equals - and then given a ride each to see which one was better to use. Lambert won his heat so was kept in. It was a common sense decision. The only reason Lambert was at reserve was because his age gave us better options. Otherwise he would have probably been in the top two anyway. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Few pics from yesterday: https://www.baansportfansite.nl/nieuws/1592/zweden-grote-winnaar-speedway-of-nations-race-off-in-manchester.html First time for me at the NSS and what a brilliant track. Looking forward to come back again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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