racers and royals Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Just caught up with the meeting on delayed live and it wasn`t the commentators who made mistakes tonight it was the graphics - wrong scores, wrong riders in wrong helmet colours in race 22 and unlike Saturday no graphics at all in any races to show which riders were in which gates- a shocking performance from those responsible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Can’t bring in any changes. And if they could Kurtz would be picked well before Morris. Morris is riding the better out of the two averaging more and you must of convieniently forgotten Morris took the World Champion apart at the Abbey the other week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: Just caught up with the meeting on delayed live and it wasn`t the commentators who made mistakes tonight it was the graphics - wrong scores, wrong riders in wrong helmet colours in race 22 and unlike Saturday no graphics at all in any races to show which riders were in which gates- a shocking performance from those responsible. Not as many mistakes but did enjoy hearing Swindon were likely to qualify for the finals. RESULT was pretty obvious before it started as the predicted three went through and while Franc did well, Milik couldn't save them alone and Australia could just let him go and relax. RACING wasn't great especially early but don't think that was down to track but the riders in the races. Covati gave the first real good race while Lindgren just has so much speed gating wasn't required in some. This is is a great race track but always thought it is too good and that showed up with Berge almost beating Doyke and then Aaranio winning which shows if you ride the right line and have the power it's hard to catch anyone and well done to those two on keeping a good steady line under pressure. FINAL should be two great days with seven good teams and while Poland will start favourites, Sweden look like they may be a good bet as Lindgren keeps getting heat wins and Lindback can grab third against anyone. If they do that in the final they could win the title even if Poland and Russia out score them. Cook ok may get a ride in Wroclaw as Lambert will find it harder out there and think Tai will be fighting a lone battle there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, iainb said: I'm afraid you'll have to ask RobMcCaffery it was a quote from one of his replies to my posts defending P&T... I just thought I'd repeat it because it made me laugh so much the first time around Careful, you'll be taking the title away from ytsjam for ridiculous comment. In any other team sport what do you think the response would be if the commentators got the score wrong? There would rightly be an outcry. But, because we're dealing with speedway, among the more dimwitted people who follow it, it's okay. I am now convinced that you kept posting your witless 'we all make mistakes' rubbish because you were too stupid to actually follow the discussion. Now you make a cheap comment like this. We had another score error tonight, this time on BSI's graphics. Thankfully it was corrected. Getting the score wrong would not be accepted in any other sport, so why is it okay in speedway? Is it such a worthless sport that it doesn't matter? Regarding tonight overall, unsurprisingly the NSS and professional organisation made a silk purse out of this sow's ear and thankfully we had some good racing with the minor nations not being complete cannon fodder. The ridiculous failure of three nations top provide full teams thankfully didn't compromise the situation. i do hope we get a couple of good meetings at Wroclaw. I love the sport and don't want it to fail. but there are too many weaknesses in this 'second and third take all' format which could have an embarrassing finale in heat 43 on Saturday. Yes I love the sport, but the sheer pig-headed stupidity of some of the supporters drives me to despair sometimes. Anyway, to shut iainb up I'll save him some work. We all make mistakes We all make mistakes We all make mistakes We all make mistakes We all make mistakes We all make mistakes But not always on live TV when in front of thousands of people when you're paid well to be taking care not to make mistakes. I understand Nigel has apologised, and it's only right that he did. Apparently to some he doesn't need to get it right in future though.............. Edited June 6, 2018 by RobMcCaffery 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 7 hours ago, BWitcher said: His team didn't win the race, they lost it, as his TEAM came last and he did nothing to help his TEAM. So really his team mate let him down by coming last? Pathetic of him to win the race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryce Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 I believe the logic behind the Aussies team selection is that Fricke rides for both of the tracks the meetings are at, and Doyle is the world champion. Pretty straightforward thinking in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 35 minutes ago, topsoil said: So really his team mate let him down by coming last? Pathetic of him to win the race The point is that Milik used bad tactics. Once he was well in the lead he should have looked round, seen his partner at the back, and slowed down to try and get him through to third - even if it meant sacrificing the lead himself. Not only would it have been better for the Czechs but it would have made for a fascinating race. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 13 hours ago, paulboy said: Oh it’s been said they do it for well below the market rate, but then again you know what they say about paying peanuts It was definitely posted that P&T plus Quirk " commentate for well below the going rate for UK premier League matches". . That may be right or wrong but it was posted. It also that they did so because they wanted to boost UK speedway. It was never suggested that they did the GP's or the SON for peanuts - Loadsa money for those I suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Was at the NSS last night and having to drive on A roads all the way to Stoke as the nearest M60 junction (southbound at least) to the NSS was shut didn't have time to post last night or watch the TV version of events, also only read the latest page of comments. The best races of the night both all involved Australia, the heats against Sweden, Finland & France were the best action. Was surprised Cook only got one heat, didn't understand why he didn't get a ride (probably with Lambert) against the lesser teams. Injured? Lindgren was super fast all night, looks like he might challenge for the world title this year, when I thought his time had passed. Unlike Doyle who doesn't seem to be riding with the confidence he had the two previous years. Milik showed he can mix it with the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, Col said: Was at the NSS last night and having to drive on A roads all the way to Stoke as the nearest M60 junction (southbound at least) to the NSS was shut didn't have time to post last night or watch the TV version of events, also only read the latest page of comments. The best races of the night both all involved Australia, the heats against Sweden, Finland & France were the best action. Was surprised Cook only got one heat, didn't understand why he didn't get a ride (probably with Lambert) against the lesser teams. Injured? Lindgren was super fast all night, looks like he might challenge for the world title this year, when I thought his time had passed. Unlike Doyle who doesn't seem to be riding with the confidence he had the two previous years. Milik showed he can mix it with the best. It has been mentioned that Cook had a warning and that it would be risky to use him because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, Ghostwalker said: It has been mentioned that Cook had a warning and that it would be risky to use him because of that. But if they replaced Cook last night as he was injured he couldn't be used at the weekend I assume? Not that the usual candidates Harris or King are performing particularly well this year, with S Worrall injured & probably a year too early for Bewley I guess options are very limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, topsoil said: So really his team mate let him down by coming last? Pathetic of him to win the race Yes, it was pathetic of him to do nothing, as the senior rider in the partnership, to help his team mate. And yes, it was pathetic of him to blast of and win the race as it meant nothing other than personal glory and guaranteed his team being eliminated. If you don't understand that basic concept, little point discussing with you. Edited June 6, 2018 by BWitcher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces High Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 At the meeting I didn't realise Cook was on a warning and was very disappointed for him. However knowing that I think Rossiter did the right thing for the team and should be commended for it. I felt that the replacement in the second heat was pre-planned but when Lambert won he had to stick with him. Lambert then followed that up with another race win and by that point I don't think Rossiter had much choice but to go with the form rider. It would have been unfair to pull Robert at that point and although he slipped up against Italy throwing Craig back in for those two heats after everyone else had four heats under their belts would have been unfair. Lambert grabbed his opportunity and Cook didn't. Will Cook be disappointed? I would have thought he absolutely would be, he has to know it has been a poor season so far. This has been a new low but even in the league he has been outshone by Fricke, Bewley, Worrall and now Tungate. As a BV fan I will be hoping he can turn it around next Monday but he must be about fourth or fifth favourite for that meeting now on his home track. If he doesn't win it or go close I can't see where the turnaround is coming at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) The object of the final and race off (under these rules) is to use any (legal) means possible to get one of your opponents into last place. That is it. Nothing else. Or force them not to finish/start at all, a technique Millik had rather wasted by using it perfectly in heat one. Anyone who has kept themselves free of warnings right to the final on Saturday would be well advised to use the 'green light bunny hop' Millik did last night in heat one to cause a tape touch from the opponent in the final and instantly win the tournament for his nation ! Edited June 6, 2018 by Grand Central 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 9 hours ago, Rob B said: 2 meetings with race offs etc to decide what was always obvious the 7 teams in final was going to be. The only question for me was which other team from Teterow would qualify along with Russia & Denmark, had the Latvians been at full strength & Ļebedevs riding like he did last year then I don't think it would have been as clear cut as it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 The selection would have been interesting if Worrall had not been injured and was continuing his fine form and he was also our best rider in Poland in the WTC. I noticed at the GP in Wroclaw and again last night that when Woffinden and Cook were being interviewed the body language didn't point to any connection between them at all, Woffinden seemed happier riding with Lambert which you can understand as I think Robert would give him the best back up and will probably get most races in Poland. Just got the feeling Woffy and Cookie not overly enamoured with each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Great heat 20, what was attendance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) Video of event 2 Belle Vue Polish commentary Edited June 6, 2018 by racers and royals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Is Rosco stuck with Cook for the final ? Seems a waste to take Cook as a Number 2 only for Lambert to start. Might as well take young Bewley as the U21 rider, then if something happens with Wuffy at least you have a rider to throw in. Cook and his geaqr seems way of the pace at this level, so if a change can be made, why not make it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Changes cant be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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