racers and royals Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mark said: He does that cos he's on his own and can't have a chat with a co-commentator. I've heard him get confused plenty of times with riders and the Swedish rules. Read through the threads on this forum as he is always asking questions. No commentator is perfect, happens in all sports.. I wish people would realise they are human. It`s not easy that`s for sure, however and i don`t know if Nigel Pearson uses a computer or fills in a paper scorechart but he only had one team`s score wrong(ukraine) which i noticed around heat 16. Edited June 3, 2018 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: SORRY no. I know you have misgivings about the SON, as do I, but have heard nothing but good reports about the racing at the NSS this year so, unlike Teterow, worth going. I’m not going not because it’s BV or because it’s the SON and I’m not impressed by either it’s because it’s a Tuesday and more importantly it’s over £100 for me the Mrs and our son in the seats and that is too much Edited June 3, 2018 by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I’m not going not because it’s BV or because it’s the SON and I’m not impressed by either it’s because it’s a Tuesday and more importantly it’s over £100 for me the Mrs and our son in the seats and that is too much ALSO think they have got the pricing wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 Can't believe that race Formula to decide the Champs,still someone has got to win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 2 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: ALSO think they have got the pricing wrong. They’ve got the whole thing wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 Why is the final over two nights?? Im hoping Tues is better than last night as frankly it was awful... never liked pairs meetings and last night didnt change anything 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulboy Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 7 hours ago, stevebrum said: As previously stated If you can suggest a better option please let BT know. It’s a new system that even the knowledgable are struggling to explain or understand. if you can quote me a post that understood the rules better than Saturday then feel free. Yes, they are supposed to know and they messed up the important latter stages. In your perfect world nobody would make mistakes I guess. Top 2 scorers qualified, 3rd went to heat 23, 4th & 5th to heat 22. Now where’s a rocket for me to experiment on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWP Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 6 hours ago, racers and royals said: Wonder what the FIM, Rzeszow and Hancock would have done if the USA had got through to Wroclaw yesterday- as he has a Bydgoszcz v Rzeszow fixture today When a Team Manager or a Rider has signed on, he is deemed to have entered the meeting and is not permitted to take part in any other motorcycle meeting until the completion of the FIM SoN, unless eliminated from the competition. Greg wouldn’t have raced at Bydgoszcz. Rzeszow knew this and were prepared if he couldn’t ride. Nicklas Porsing after his crash last week, opted not to ride today. But was there with his bikes and he or junior rider Rzasa would have ridden if Greg was unable to. Rzeszow won 29-61 so even without Greg or Nicklas it would have still been a big win to Stal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: YOU may be right. I wasn't making excuses for Teterow, just pointing out that providing the TV from there is fraught with problems. Yes but yet again, BSI know this. And they chose it, nonetheless. Stop making excuses for people equipped with making better decisions. But either dont, or simply can't. Edited June 3, 2018 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, paulboy said: Top 2 scorers qualified, 3rd went to heat 23, 4th & 5th to heat 22. Now where’s a rocket for me to experiment on? Clear if you read the rules, which Nigel and kelvin were clear about. Glad that's sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 minute ago, DWP said: Greg wouldn’t have raced at Bydgoszcz. Rzeszow knew this and were prepared if he couldn’t ride. Nicklas Porsing after his crash last week, opted not to ride today. But was there with his bikes and he or junior rider Rzasa would have ridden if Greg was unable to. Rzeszow won 29-61 so even without Greg or Nicklas it would have still been a big win to Stal. I watched it live on the internet. Nicklas obviously didn`t break his leg in the crash last week - he must have been a lucky boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: ALSO think they have got the pricing wrong. Bit by bit ...we are getting there. By October will you actually admit that they have got EVERYTHING wrong. And that was obvious 6 months ago. This is an utter balls up. Edited June 3, 2018 by Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulboy Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Clear if you read the rules, which Nigel and kelvin were clear about. Glad that's sorted. They sounded ever so clear about it last night until Zagar popped up in heat 22! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 2 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: ALSO think they have got the pricing wrong. Couldn't agree more Phil, choice of race night poor too, should have been the Saturday night. Not keen on the format either. All that said, the prospect of watching the GB, Aus, Sweden teams & in my opinion dark horse French pair do battle on our track in what should be ideal conditions was too good to resist. Certainly should be better than the first semi final anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, Grand Central said: Yes but yet again, BSI know this. And they chose it, nonetheless. Stop making excuses for people equipped with making better decisions. But either dont, or simply can't. WHEN was I making an excuse for Teterow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Clear if you read the rules, which Nigel and kelvin were clear about. Glad that's sorted. Pity they didn`t read these 2 rules which i posted yesterday afternoon- They might have known that the reserve cannot come in for starting offences. " In front of the starting tape, a countdown clock is placed on the infield indicating the remainder of the 2 minutes time allowance. If, in the opinion of the Referee, any Rider or Riders are not ready to start when the 2 minutes time allowance has expired or are not under the control of the Starting Marshal, they shall be disqualified from the heat. The disqualified Rider or Riders shall not be replaced." 8.4 Unsatisfactory Start Starts will be carried out in accordance with Regulation 70.10.5 Where, in the opinion of the Referee, a start has been incorrect then he will immediately stop the race and order a restart. The Referee will give a warning to any rider deemed to have been the cause of or contributed to the unsatisfactory start. This will be communicated verbally by the Race Director before the race is restarted. In circumstances where the referee is of the opinion that an offence has been committed but the offending rider has gained no advantage and is deemed not to have interfered with any other rider in the same heat, the Referee may allow the heat to continue and issue the warning after the heat is completed. In these circumstances the offending rider must be informed before leaving the pits for his/her next heat. Any starting offence committed after a warning has been given in the same meeting under this Regulation will result in the disqualification of the rider from that race. This will be signified by the showing of his disqualification light by the Referee. The Reserve Rider will not be permitted to take the place of any rider disqualified for starting offences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: WHEN was I making an excuse for Teterow? That's quite cute. When you prefaced your comment by saying you weren't making excuses for Teterow, but continued to go on and do EXACTLY that. That's when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, Grand Central said: That's quite cute. When you prefaced your comment by saying you weren't making excuses for Teterow, but continued to go on and do EXACTLY that. That's when. BEEN called many things but never cute. Was trying to point out, unsuccessfully it seems, how tough the working conditions at Teterow were and will be again for KT and NP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 30 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: WHEN was I making an excuse for Teterow? A think a couple of years ago, when after quite a few complaints about the organisation of the first GP there, you said lessons will be learned. Well have they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: BEEN called many things but never cute. Was trying to point out, unsuccessfully it seems, how tough the working conditions at Teterow were and will be again for KT and NP. I have not spent a moment criticising KT and NP. Their working conditions were entirely due to BSI making poor decisions. And they had the power to make those better, at Teterow or elsewhere. They are the ones at fault. From beginning to end. To make helpful noises for the comms by blaming Teterow's poor facilities is to misplace where blame should be apportioned. BSI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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