Humphrey Appleby Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark said: Those that are 'offended' should get more to do in there life. Too many people find offence at the slightest thing and it means the small minority rule for the majoritry because they are offended and something has to be done as a result. It’s not about being offended. I’ve nothing against looking at attractive women. It’s just tacky for the same reason that I’ve never understood why it’s necessary to drape rather fake women over cars to sell them. I find it rather insulting that someone would think they could sway my purchase that way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Ghostwalker said: Andreas Jonsson (and Jacob Thorssell) have taken a stance against Grid Girls.https://www.svt.se/sport/motorsport/andreas-jonsson-vill-inte-se-lattkladda-kvinnor-tar-fokus-fran-sporten/ Kristian Hysén is executive president of IMG Sweden and he agrees with AJ's opionon and says that he will work for Grid girls to stopped being used. He also says that the phenomenon is considered old -fashioned in Sweden but that other countries disagrees. https://www.svt.se/sport/motorsport/efter-kritiken-grid-girls-kan-forsvinna/ Not even reading the links but you probably know that the majority of Finns thinks the lot of You girly anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Humphrey Appleby said: It’s not about being offended. I’ve nothing against looking at attractive women. It’s just tacky for the same reason that I’ve never understood why it’s necessary to drape rather fake women over cars to sell them. I find it rather insulting that someone would think they could sway my purchase that way. Just goes to show you can't please everyone Humph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icicle Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 Thought F1 was scrapping Women for Kiddie Porn, i,e "Skid Kids"...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Icicle said: Thought F1 was scrapping Women for Kiddie Porn, i,e "Skid Kids"...... I'm offended by mums and dads putting there kids through this ordeal. Ban them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Science Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 hours ago, Ghostwalker said: Andreas Jonsson (and Jacob Thorssell) have taken a stance against Grid Girls.https://www.svt.se/sport/motorsport/andreas-jonsson-vill-inte-se-lattkladda-kvinnor-tar-fokus-fran-sporten/ Kristian Hysén is executive president of IMG Sweden and he agrees with AJ's opionon and says that he will work for Grid girls to stopped being used. He also says that the phenomenon is considered old -fashioned in Sweden but that other countries disagrees. https://www.svt.se/sport/motorsport/efter-kritiken-grid-girls-kan-forsvinna/ If they feel that strongly maybe they should not ride where any grid girls are present, including the GP, World Cup, European Championship and Polish League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, New Science said: If they feel that strongly maybe they should not ride where any grid girls are present, including the GP, World Cup, European Championship and Polish League. Another crazy idea would be to stop using grid girls. There is absolutely no need to still have them. Grid girls are a thing of the past and isn't something that should be present in 21st century motorsport events. Edited March 30, 2018 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Ghostwalker said: Another crazy idea would be to stop using grid girls. There is absolutely no need to still have them. Grid girls are a thing of the past and isn't something that should be present in 21st century motorsport events. Your opinion and one that I disagree with entirely. I see nothing wrong with them or the concept and have every sympathy for those losing jobs that they love. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Ghostwalker said: Another crazy idea would be to stop using grid girls. There is absolutely no need to still have them. Grid girls are a thing of the past and isn't something that should be present in 21st century motorsport events. Why? Folks continuously trot out the same old scripted lines... but never come up with any legitimate reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icicle Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 The "PC" argument is " stop exploitation of Women" but in actuality it is Male Chauvinists making sure there are less jobs for Women & their place is in the kitchen only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted March 30, 2018 Report Share Posted March 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Ghostwalker said: Another crazy idea would be to stop using grid girls. There is absolutely no need to still have them. Grid girls are a thing of the past and isn't something that should be present in 21st century motorsport events. What was the need to have in the first place and how has that changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 23 hours ago, Ghostwalker said: Another crazy idea would be to stop using grid girls. There is absolutely no need to still have them. Grid girls are a thing of the past and isn't something that should be present in 21st century motorsport events. They used to have men wearing coloured sweat shirts to indicate the rider lanes. Why shouldn't women be allowed to do the same job as men? At Swindon there are 4 girls who indicate rider lanes, exclusions etc. They are supporters of the club. There is absolutely no sexual conotation to it. I see no reason at all why anyone should be against this. The Grand Prix may be a bit different, as there does seem to be sexuality involved, and the camera angles used by some countries' productions can be a bit embarassing. I can see why some people might be a bit unsure about the way they are used, although, personally, I thin it is pretty harmless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Much better to get one or two of the Radio 4 Gardening panel to give their perspective on the quality of the gardening going on at the gate. It is essential to ensure that speedway is not too interesting. And Yes! it's about time that an onscreen warning was added saying that " the contents of the can or bottle in the riders hand cannot be guaranteed to be as the label indicates". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 2018-03-30 at 4:44 PM, f-s-p said: What was the need to have in the first place and how has that changed? You tell me? As far as I can see there is no need for umbrella girls in motorsport. They do not add anything other then embarrassment. In F1, from what I have read, the original use was for them to hold umbrellas to shield the drivers from sun or rain. F1 have come to the conclusion that such service is no longer required. The only "use" the umbrella girls have in speedway is eye candy for old men and teenage boys i.e. no real use at all. I have yet to see a valid argument regarding what the umbrella girls add to a speedway meeting. We don't have them in the Swedish leagues and we do just fine without them. Our spectators comes to the meeting to watch speedway racing not umbrella girls. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ghostwalker said: You tell me? As far as I can see there is no need for umbrella girls in motorsport. They do not add anything other then embarrassment. In F1, from what I have read, the original use was for them to hold umbrellas to shield the drivers from sun or rain. F1 have come to the conclusion that such service is no longer required. The only "use" the umbrella girls have in speedway is eye candy for old men and teenage boys i.e. no real use at all. I have yet to see a valid argument regarding what the umbrella girls add to a speedway meeting. We don't have them in the Swedish leagues and we do just fine without them. Our spectators comes to the meeting to watch speedway racing not umbrella girls. Who is embarassed? I'd suggest that anyone 'embarassed' is the one with the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 I'd rather keep the grid girls in speedway, but do away with the silly champagne splashing at the victory ceremonies. Why do we have to celebrate victory in a motorsports event with alcohol ? That is much more "embarrassing" than having a few good looking girls show the helmet colours of the riders at the start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bavarian said: I'd rather keep the grid girls in speedway, but do away with the silly champagne splashing at the victory ceremonies. Why do we have to celebrate victory in a motorsports event with alcohol ? That is much more "embarrassing" than having a few good looking girls show the helmet colours of the riders at the start. Basically what we have is a group of jealous woman trying to enforce their way on to others and a group of chauvenistic men telling women to 'cover up'. Oh and a group just creeping to the vociferous minority for a bit of attention. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 12 hours ago, Ghostwalker said: You tell me? As far as I can see there is no need for umbrella girls in motorsport. They do not add anything other then embarrassment. In F1, from what I have read, the original use was for them to hold umbrellas to shield the drivers from sun or rain. F1 have come to the conclusion that such service is no longer required. The only "use" the umbrella girls have in speedway is eye candy for old men and teenage boys i.e. no real use at all. I have yet to see a valid argument regarding what the umbrella girls add to a speedway meeting. We don't have them in the Swedish leagues and we do just fine without them. Our spectators comes to the meeting to watch speedway racing not umbrella girls. What does your basic middle aged men look at then, if girls are for teens and pensioners? Speedway does have actual problems you know, that need sorting. Girls with umbrellas are not one of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Take away the start line girls/ladies/women/females (delete according to your personal political correctness values) and you'll then have cries of "where are the women in this sport". And apart from the occasional co-promoter and less than a handful of referees, what actually would be the role of women in the sport?...and no, you can't count the very occasional track photographer that happens to be female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubar Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 I watched some Polish speedway last night where there were grid girls. The zooming in close ups of parts of these young women's anatomy was frankly pathetic. If you were sitting watching this with your children/grandchildren how would you explain this camera work to them. Time to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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