Once A Jolly Swagman

[steve roberts]

29 minutes ago, Harry The Goat said:

Superb clip, that! Love the all-too-brief shots from the rider's POV. Nicely done.

Question (because I can't remember): when did riders stop wearing those type of face masks?

I'm guessing the late seventies...shame because it was one way of identifying riders with distinctive masks but of course the full face helmets which became the vogue offered better protection. Always recall Anders Michanek's scarf which he used to pull up over his mouth and nose.

[cityrebel]

41 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

I'm guessing the late seventies...shame because it was one way of identifying riders with distinctive masks but of course the full face helmets which became the vogue offered better protection. Always recall Anders Michanek's scarf which he used to pull up over his mouth and nose.

Eddie Reeves was one of the first riders I can recall wearing a full face helmet.

[geoff100]

47 minutes ago, steve roberts said:

I'm guessing the late seventies...shame because it was one way of identifying riders with distinctive masks but of course the full face helmets which became the vogue offered better protection. Always recall Anders Michanek's scarf which he used to pull up over his mouth and nose.

I think they were called "monkey masks" i once bought one off taffy owen in 1976 for £4.95.wish i had kept it, strange u can look at pics from.then and know who the rider is buy the marks on the mask which covered some air holes these days with full face helmets they all look the same !

[steve roberts]

9 minutes ago, cityrebel said:

Eddie Reeves was one of the first riders I can recall wearing a full face helmet.

Remember Eddie wearing a red full face helmet during 1973 for 'The Rebels' before he was transferred to King's Lynn.

I guess that Briggo was one of the first although Terry Betts wore one before it really became the vogue. Saw a photo of Ivan Mauger wearing one with mirrors attached to the visor but it didn't really catch on.

When full face helmets became the rage I don't recall seeing either of the Grahame brothers wearing one resisting the temptation...or Ole Olsen come to that!

[foamfence]

I can still remember a seeing a rider with a helmet that covered his ears, the announcer made a point of telling you how it gave better protection to the skull, must've been in the very early 60s I think.

[keepturningleft]

On 26 January 2018 at 8:08 PM, Lioness said:

Use it in the care home all the time, the oldies love it

Take the Michael if you like but these old classics have things like, plot, character development, strong acting and direction and screenplays written by people with talent etc unlike much of todays fare where spaceships endlessly fly through space, things blow up, dialogue is mumbled, editing is so flashy you can't tell what's happening, cars crash and brain numbing special effects overwhelm proceedings to such an extent that little is left to the imagination and every idea you may have is completely driven from your head...

 

The Darkest Hour is good 'though...

 

[SCB]

Where exactly what White City Stadium? I've worked at BBC Television Centre (or whatever they're calling it these days) a few times in the last 12 months and I can't work out where the track/stadum would have been.

 

edit > Finally worked it out with the aid of this picture! http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2004/05_may/11/mv_history.pdf

Edited January 28, 2018 by SCB

[wealdstone]

I have probably missed something here as I have not been through the whole thread, but the film  in question was I thought filmed at New Cross.

[hrhbig]

Think its now called BBC White City, sort of in the corner of Westway and Wood lane.

 

[Gemini]

11 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said:

Talking Pictures is available free of charge on Freeview channel 81, although whether you can receive it depends on which transmitter your TV is tuned into. The main ones carry it so the majority of people do but the small local relays don't. Almost all TVs have Freeview built-in, although not all are connected to an aerial to allow it to be used. 

Thanks Rob.  I'll try that tomorrow as we have a Freeview TV upstairs.

keepturning left................ Take the Michael if you like but these old classics have things like, plot, character development, strong acting and direction and screenplays written by people with talent etc unlike much of todays fare where spaceships endlessly fly through space, things blow up, dialogue is mumbled, editing is so flashy you can't tell what's happening, cars crash and brain numbing special effects overwhelm proceedings to such an extent that little is left to the imagination and every idea you may have is completely driven from your head...

I'm sure you have misunderstood Lioness because she isn't into taking the mickey, just making an observation I think.

Edited January 28, 2018 by Gemini

[martinmauger]

Pretty sure that Sweeney episode was from 1976, the year it didn't rain for a good few weeks, or months even.  Seem to recall reading the likes of Ivan & Olsen stuck with open face helmets was due to their lighter weight than full-face lids, there was much less chance of a neck / wiplash injury in the event of a bad crash.  Big Alan Grahame also stuck with his open face lid til full-face helmets became compulsory in 2000 or so...

[steve roberts]

3 hours ago, martinmauger said:

Pretty sure that Sweeney episode was from 1976, the year it didn't rain for a good few weeks, or months even.  Seem to recall reading the likes of Ivan & Olsen stuck with open face helmets was due to their lighter weight than full-face lids, there was much less chance of a neck / wiplash injury in the event of a bad crash.  Big Alan Grahame also stuck with his open face lid til full-face helmets became compulsory in 2000 or so...

...definately 1976 as I recognise Paul Gachet's leathers as he was injured (broken ankle) early in 1977 and missed the rest of the season which is often conveniently forgotten when people question 'The Rebels' winning the championship that year.

Great memories!

[steve roberts]

Interesting that the alternative working title for the film 'Once a Jolly Swagman' was 'Maniacs on Wheels!'

[cityrebel]

9 hours ago, wealdstone said:

I have probably missed something here as I have not been through the whole thread, but the film  in question was I thought filmed at New Cross.

All topics divert a little, it's not the end of the world , is it?

[wealdstone]

1 minute ago, cityrebel said:

All topics divert a little, it's not the end of the world , is it?

Sorry not sure the point you are making.

[Grachan]

2 hours ago, steve roberts said:

Interesting that the alternative working title for the film 'Once a Jolly Swagman' was 'Maniacs on Wheels!'

I believe that's the title of the film in the USA.

[steve roberts]

1 hour ago, cityrebel said:

All topics divert a little, it's not the end of the world , is it?

...personally I like it when posts go off on a tangent. Often makes them more interesting!

[*JJ]

23 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said:

Talking Pictures is available free of charge on Freeview channel 81, although whether you can receive it depends on which transmitter your TV is tuned into. The main ones carry it so the majority of people do but the small local relays don't. Almost all TVs have Freeview built-in, although not all are connected to an aerial to allow it to be used. 

It doesn't seem to be on my TV? This is in Birmingham.

[Aces51]

13 minutes ago, *JJ said:

It doesn't seem to be on my TV? This is in Birmingham.

Try updating your Freeview channel list. It should be in the set up menu for your TV if Freeview is installed on your TV. May be listed as  Update DVB channel list.

[Mr Ore]

1 hour ago, adonis said:

 I would think the modern equivalent of these places would be the Millennium dome , which was a disaster since nobody thought what to do with it afterwards ,and the exhibitions didn't go on for long enough by the time people had got round to putting it on their bucket list it was closed 

This will no doubt be the O2 which is still going strong staging concerts, sporting events and exhibitions plus a plethora of restaurants, bars and lecture theatres. I get weekly invitations to events there; today being advised that tickets are now on sale for a World Championship boxing event in a couple of months. Been to God knows how many gigs there, used various restauarnts and had a workshop with Penn and Teller in one of the smaller theatres. I appreciate that you can no longer go up an escalator into a giant's ring piece, but your observation is at best ill informed. Having witnessed the numerous failures of privatisation in selliing off key public services, this is one case where the privtae sector has actually come good with a thriving leisure complex, with tens of thousands attending every day. 

Edited January 29, 2018 by Mr Ore
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