Halifaxtiger Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, cheekycobra said: Do you mean on the track or facilities? Literally everything. I am struggling to think of one single aspect of STMP that makes it a better stadium to hold a national event than EOES. This isn't a criticism of Redcar because it is a most unfair comparison - there are few that can match Peterborough. Speaking personally, what counts is the quality of the racing. I stand to be corrected, but what I have seen at Redcar over the last few seasons leads me to believe that it is likely that this years Fours won't hold a candle to the superb speedway seen in 2016 & 2017. Edited January 27, 2018 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 So happy that Redcar have got the meeting.. good on em... Reckon the meeting should move around and not be stuck at one track. Shame there's no fours qualification tournament though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Albert said: So happy that Redcar have got the meeting.. good on em... Reckon the meeting should move around and not be stuck at one track. Shame there's no fours qualification tournament though. Inclined to agree with you. But at the end of the day the shared events has to make money and if the Redcar promotion fail to do so then the event will more than likely move back to Peterborough. Like after last season Glasgow took on the Riders Individual meeting it did not make enough money so they move it back to Sheffield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekycobra Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Can 2 hours ago, Halifaxtiger said: Literally everything. I am struggling to think of one single aspect of STMP that makes it a better stadium to hold a national event than EOES. This isn't a criticism of Redcar because it is a most unfair comparison - there are few that can match Peterborough. Speaking personally, what counts is the quality of the racing. I stand to be corrected, but what I have seen at Redcar over the last few seasons leads me to believe that it is likely that this years Fours won't hold a candle to the superb speedway seen in 2016 & 2017. Everything will be taken into consideration. Redcar CAN stage this meeting and will do a good job. Nowt to doubt. Seen Peterborough on TV, great track and seen some great racing, not all the time though. Seen some great racing at Redcar too, so have you. How do you know it wont be great at the fours. The fours is like the world cup, riders up their game, Same will happen at Redcar. 100% sure it will be a cracker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, spin king said: Inclined to agree with you. But at the end of the day the shared events has to make money and if the Redcar promotion fail to do so then the event will more than likely move back to Peterborough. Like after last season Glasgow took on the Riders Individual meeting it did not make enough money so they move it back to Sheffield. yeah.. what you say I agree with.. being a shared event, the venue and location have to be of an acceptable standard and distance for opposing fans to travel and also to make it financially viable. That perhaps counts a lot of tracks out the running, my local track included. Geographically Redcar maybe a tad north ...but good for northern tracks, I'm sure they'll cope with crowd levels, hopefully i'll be there to see it. Sheffield always seem to have the riders final.. Fine by me, cos its well within travelling distance.. but I wouldn't grumble if it moved to Belle Vue or similar for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekycobra Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 4 hours ago, ch958 said: theres an ind est over the road which will be empty on Sunday, plenty of room Theres the whole of the cart track to park on like I had to at the very first meeting. motorcross carpark also. The whole motor sport facility is massive, parking will not be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekycobra Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Albert said: yeah.. what you say I agree with.. being a shared event, the venue and location have to be of an acceptable standard and distance for opposing fans to travel and also to make it financially viable. That perhaps counts a lot of tracks out the running, my local track included. Geographically Redcar maybe a tad north ...but good for northern tracks, I'm sure they'll cope with crowd levels, hopefully i'll be there to see it. Sheffield always seem to have the riders final.. Fine by me, cos its well within travelling distance.. but I wouldn't grumble if it moved to Belle Vue or similar for a change. 11 teams in the league, 5 of them are further north than Redcar. That makes Redcar spitting dab in the middle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, cheekycobra said: 11 teams in the league, 5 of them are further north than Redcar. That makes Redcar spitting dab in the middle. and with decent transport links.. its a good shout imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Tsunami said: 28,000 reasons for doing that. It is all so confusing. As far as I can understand the BSPA feel that the things Mr Godfrey denies saying and doing were all ok as they were in the best interests of Speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, cheekycobra said: stillCan Everything will be taken into consideration. Redcar CAN stage this meeting and will do a good job. Nowt to doubt. Seen Peterborough on TV, great track and seen some great racing, not all the time though. Seen some great racing at Redcar too, so have you. How do you know it wont be great at the fours. The fours is like the world cup, riders up their game, Same will happen at Redcar. 100% sure it will be a cracker. Its not my view that Redcar can't stage the meeting or indeed make a reasonable success of it - I just don't think that the facilities at STMP match EOES in any way at all. To me, the last two seasons Fours have been a fantastic advert for speedway so I simply wouldn't have changed it and would have gone a long way to ensuring that this years event was staged at Peterborough. It seems rather pathetic to me - and indicative (apparently) of the way that certain members of the BSPA put their own private grievances above the wishes of the paying fan - that it is not. I have seen some good racing at Redcar - indeed, it used to be one of my favourite tracks until Havelock got hold of it. Things improved in 2017 but the quality of the speedway there is still light years away from that at Peterborough. My own view is that shared events should be allocated on the basis of all round success, nothing more. That is about both the financial rewards off track and feedback from fans about the meeting itself. Do a good job, get it back. Don't and lose it. Edited January 28, 2018 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 if not Redcar it should be at BV - why should Peterborough have home advantage every year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldywonkenoldi Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Halifaxtiger said: Its not my view that Redcar can't stage the meeting or indeed make a reasonable success of it - I just don't think that the facilities at STMP match EOES in any way at all. To me, the last two seasons Fours have been a fantastic advert for speedway so I simply wouldn't have changed it and would have gone a long way to ensuring that this years event was staged at Peterborough. It seems rather pathetic to me - and indicative (apparently) of the way that certain members of the BSPA put their own private grievances above the wishes of the paying fan - that it is not. I have seen some good racing at Redcar - indeed, it used to be one of my favourite tracks until Havelock got hold of it. Things improved in 2017 but the quality of the speedway there is still light years away from that at Peterborough. My own view is that shared events should be allocated on the basis of all round success, nothing more. That is about both the financial rewards off track and feedback from fans about the meeting itself. Do a good job, get it back. Don't and lose it. Ah but we got the meet cos we talk proper like yerknowwarramean, even mor Kweens inglish than you Tykes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 19 hours ago, Albert said: and with decent transport links.. its a good shout imo. Transport links are as bad as Peterborough. I know. I've tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 19 hours ago, cheekycobra said: Theres the whole of the cart track to park on like I had to at the very first meeting. motorcross carpark also. The whole motor sport facility is massive, parking will not be a problem. It's a Sunday in the middle of the summer. I'd be very surprised if the Cart Track isn't open as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedcarRacer Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 On 28/01/2018 at 6:58 AM, Halifaxtiger said: Its not my view that Redcar can't stage the meeting or indeed make a reasonable success of it - I just don't think that the facilities at STMP match EOES in any way at all. To me, the last two seasons Fours have been a fantastic advert for speedway so I simply wouldn't have changed it and would have gone a long way to ensuring that this years event was staged at Peterborough. It seems rather pathetic to me - and indicative (apparently) of the way that certain members of the BSPA put their own private grievances above the wishes of the paying fan - that it is not. I have seen some good racing at Redcar - indeed, it used to be one of my favourite tracks until Havelock got hold of it. Things improved in 2017 but the quality of the speedway there is still light years away from that at Peterborough. My own view is that shared events should be allocated on the basis of all round success, nothing more. That is about both the financial rewards off track and feedback from fans about the meeting itself. Do a good job, get it back. Don't and lose it. Having attended a number of fours events at Peterborough - there is no reason to suggest that Redcar won't be better, the EOS track is not lightyears ahead of any track (Newcastle granted), especially Redcar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvm Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 15 hours ago, leander said: It's a Sunday in the middle of the summer. I'd be very surprised if the Cart Track isn't open as well. According to the Teesside Aerodrome's own website, no events are scheduled to take place on the weekend of the Fours. I'm sure Kevin & Ben will hold (or have held) discussions with operators of the Motorsports park to iron out any problems. I believe they have a good working relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 On 25/01/2018 at 3:58 PM, Parsy29 said: They had to get it on a certain date to make sure the car parking at the adjacent Karting / moto cross facilities will also be in full sole operation by Redcar Speedway for the 4s meeting. Dont worry everything has been well and truly thought out before this meeting was accepted by the promotion 21 minutes ago, pvm said: According to the Teesside Aerodrome's own website, no events are scheduled to take place on the weekend of the Fours. I'm sure Kevin & Ben will hold (or have held) discussions with operators of the Motorsports park to iron out any problems. I believe they have a good working relationship. I think we should be OK given what Parsy29 said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erimus11 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 On 1/25/2018 at 5:35 PM, blupanther said: Think you will find that they had no intention of having it this year, and personally i'm not bothered where it is. Should be at the National Stadium imo... Very good - I like the way you do irony 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvm Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) On 25/01/2018 at 3:58 PM, Parsy29 said: They had to get it on a certain date to make sure the car parking at the adjacent Karting / moto cross facilities will also be in full sole operation by Redcar Speedway for the 4s meeting. Dont worry everything has been well and truly thought out before this meeting was accepted by the promotion 4 hours ago, pvm said: According to the Teesside Aerodrome's own website, no events are scheduled to take place on the weekend of the Fours. I'm sure Kevin & Ben will hold (or have held) discussions with operators of the Motorsports park to iron out any problems. I believe they have a good working relationship. 3 hours ago, Tsunami said: I think we should be OK given what Parsy29 said. 3 hours ago, Tsunami said: Sorry, I missed Parsy29's post when I was replying to one of your earlier posts, so wasn't aware of things already being put in place, thanks for pointing out the extra information I'd missed... Edited January 29, 2018 by pvm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 On 27/01/2018 at 10:50 PM, spin king said: Inclined to agree with you. But at the end of the day the shared events has to make money and if the Redcar promotion fail to do so then the event will more than likely move back to Peterborough. Like after last season Glasgow took on the Riders Individual meeting it did not make enough money so they move it back to Sheffield. It would have been fine at Gkasgow if the original staging hadn't been rained off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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