The Third Man Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, oldywonkenoldi said: The answer to your neutral track venue, Have Redcar won the league yet, or even gone through a season unbeaten at home, NO, or have teams who hardly ever lose at home with the advantages they have, won the league every year since Redcar rejoined the championship in 2006. I say only Scorpions have won the league since then, who have not had a massive home advantage. Have Redcar ever had a team capable of winning the league? Sheffield always seem to have home track advantage when they have a good team, it disappears when we don't I really don't understand this fact Edited January 27, 2018 by The Third Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 12 hours ago, cheekycobra said: Not only a neutral track, but a track that most riders love to ride. You see it week in week out. opposition riders up there game which makes Redcar have to up theirs. As an example Aussie riders and saying to Redcars new rider Jordan Stewart "you will love the track". So if you have a team with Aussies in it you will have an advantage, so does that make it a neutral track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 so how much did redcar pay to get the 4s ? they dont just hand them out, its a bidding war i think . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, jenga said: so how much did redcar pay to get the 4s ? they dont just hand them out, its a bidding war i think . And you think anybody on here would know that , we don't even know the rules ffs never mind how much someone pays for an event. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, jenga said: so how much did redcar pay to get the 4s ? they dont just hand them out, its a bidding war i think . Used to be the case but not anymore, now it’s more like who can be bothered to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 On 25/01/2018 at 7:37 PM, Bellers101 said: Middlesbrough Station is 5mins taxi ride from the track. Not too easy to walk to due to the A66. Don't get off at Redcar its miles away! South Bank station is about a 15min walk from the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Redcar did not ask for the Fours, they were offered them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, boz said: Redcar did not ask for the Fours, they were offered them.. As I say good to see these events shared around different tracks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 On 25/01/2018 at 10:40 PM, Speedway4ever said: Like Boz said Improved viewing areas are being worked on, more catering vans to be planned, Car parking being looked and and some other places sorted. Even outside if those footy fans can get away with parking their cars all over and the Police and Council doing nothing about them then it shouldn't be a problem. The track is one of the best in Speedway and there will be good action on it. i'm sure the true Speedway fans will come and watch while the yappers will continue to yap. It should be as great days entertainment. As good as Peterborough ? Not in my recent experience. Redcar have something serious to match here. The Fours meetings over the last two seasons at the Showground have been nothing less than brilliant and I am genuinely surprised that this meeting has been moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said: As good as Peterborough ? Not in my recent experience. Redcar have something serious to match here. The Fours meetings over the last two seasons at the Showground have been nothing less than brilliant and I am genuinely surprised that this meeting has been moved. The reason it's not at the showground is because Jed Rathbone told the BSPA to stick it where the sun doesn't shine in response to the harsh fine originally imposed on him for releasing Jack Holder to ride in Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said: As good as Peterborough ? Not in my recent experience. Redcar have something serious to match here. The Fours meetings over the last two seasons at the Showground have been nothing less than brilliant and I am genuinely surprised that this meeting has been moved. Surely not surprised given all comments and events. But with the 4TT at the EoES virtually always a success and everything in place for that success to continue then it is strange logic if you can put aside any vindictiveness. Perhaps Rathbone was asked but declined. As for the track, Doyle should know what he's talking about - Doyle said: “I’ve ridden Peterborough a few times with Somerset and also back some years ago when I was with Poole. It’s a nice track to ride and hopefully it’s going to be good racing. It’s a proper racetrack, there’s many lines on it, as far as I can remember. I haven’t been for a few years so hopefully it’s the same! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, New era Panthers said: The reason it's not at the showground is because Jed Rathbone told the BSPA to stick it where the sun doesn't shine in response to the harsh fine originally imposed on him for releasing Jack Holder to ride in Poland. 28,000 reasons for doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tsunami said: 28,000 reasons for doing that. No sour grapes from me for moving it to Redcar , I am not a great lover of the fours event at the best of times and last season I arranged my holiday to Australia coincide with the tournemont , it 'was the only meeting I missed and still managed to get back for the next home meeting against Newcastle. Good luck to Redcar and I hope they make a success of it . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 From memory, clubs apply if they wish to hold a Major Event & Peterborough did not apply for the 4's in 2018. The only Major that seems it will not move will be the Pairs at Somerset, with it being the day before Cardiff & a lot of speedway fans in the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Crump99 said: Surely not surprised given all comments and events. But with the 4TT at the EoES virtually always a success and everything in place for that success to continue then it is strange logic if you can put aside any vindictiveness. Perhaps Rathbone was asked but declined. As for the track, Doyle should know what he's talking about - Doyle said: “I’ve ridden Peterborough a few times with Somerset and also back some years ago when I was with Poole. It’s a nice track to ride and hopefully it’s going to be good racing. It’s a proper racetrack, there’s many lines on it, as far as I can remember. I haven’t been for a few years so hopefully it’s the same! I am surprised but I am also naïve. If an event is a huge success on and off track you'd think you would do everything not to change it. No disrespect to Redcar, but in almost every aspect it is inferior to Peterborough for holding an event of this nature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekycobra Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 7 hours ago, The Third Man said: Have Redcar ever had a team capable of winning the league? Sheffield always seem to have home track advantage when they have a good team, it disappears when we don't I really don't understand this fact Probably last season. The Bears were in the hunt until the end when injures (having one or no Redcar riders in the line-up) took there toll. That and throwing away a couple of home meetings mid season. Having a track that most riders like and are prepared to have a go makes it harder for the home team. Some riders have tracks they hate and don't put the effort in. I think Peterborough last season was a good example. Both sides were evenly matched but all seven Panthers put the effort in and beat the Bears twice and took a draw in the cup and league one including Lunna as a guest who always does well at Redcar. Yet the Bears still finished higher in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekycobra Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said: I am surprised but I am also naïve. If an event is a huge success on and off track you'd think you would do everything not to change it. No disrespect to Redcar, but in almost every aspect it is inferior to Peterborough for holding an event of this nature. Do you mean on the track or facilities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Congratulation to Kevin & Co. for getting this Event to the North East. I think it will be a tremendous day out. I hope the weather is kind. Well done Redcar and the very best of luck - you deserve it. Hopefully I'll be there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 On 1/25/2018 at 3:02 PM, oldywonkenoldi said: When the Bears returned to Speedway at this venue on its opening day, there was close to 5000 fans inside, the arena has better facilities now so cant see any problems. True. But the car park is now less than half the size it was originally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, leander said: True. But the car park is now less than half the size it was originally. theres an ind est over the road which will be empty on Sunday, plenty of room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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