Bald Bloke Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) Just had a proper look.I know teams will change,but how it stands now. Poole. On paper says it all Swindon. Bellego is a risk for me.But Ellis on a bargain. Wolves. Good at home.OK away Leicester.Very strong at home once dialled in.Might struggle away early season.. BV.Home (very fair track for all).Will pick up some points away Somerset .Again good at home. A few away points Rye Great at homeThe odd point away. Lynn. should win most at home.Can't see many,if any away points. Edited February 7, 2018 by Bald Bloke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 hours ago, hyderd said: from 2007 till 2015 we were the whipping boys of speedway, so to top the league in 2016, and finish in the top 4 in 2017 is some improvement, hopefully this season we can come away with the bacon. You were in the final in 2015??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 49 minutes ago, Steve0 said: I agree. The team that finished top of the pile with a run of 17 straight wins during the season. In the good old days I'd agree. Thankfully that no longer applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 hours ago, poolebolton said: Surely BV have chocked in the last few years? Lost 2 finals in a row and should have won last year. 2015 Gogglegate 2016 Woffygate 2017 Freddiegate 2018 ?????gate Belle Vue will not win the play offs, officialdom will see to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Should be who ends up top is the league winners.Is a few pay days for a few clubs worth more than a league winning side ending up 4th.Where else would this happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Cow&Gate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 Can u imagine Man City finishing 15 points clear and coming 4th to Burnley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 8 hours ago, stevebrum said: We all know the outcome if our 2 Swedes had been riding. This is what I dislike about the Play--off idea. With Wolves two swedes injured, the final was but a mockery and bared little resemblance of the season as a whole. For this Play-off idea to have any credit at all. why not let the teams in the PO carry the points gained through the season and add onto them. At least this way the winner then would be the team that deserves it most, and wont be determined by accidents and/or injured riders.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, g13webb said: This is what I dislike about the Play--off idea. With Wolves two swedes injured, the final was but a mockery and bared little resemblance of the season as a whole. For this Play-off idea to have any credit at all. why not let the teams in the PO carry the points gained through the season and add onto them. At least this way the winner then would be the team that deserves it most, and wont be determined by accidents and/or injured riders.. The Play Offs should not be over 2 legs. Semi Finals should be 1 v 4 & 2 v 3 with the final being staged at the venue of the team that finished higher in the league. This would reward the team that did best in the league which ought to be the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 2 hours ago, g13webb said: This is what I dislike about the Play--off idea. With Wolves two swedes injured, the final was but a mockery and bared little resemblance of the season as a whole. For this Play-off idea to have any credit at all. why not let the teams in the PO carry the points gained through the season and add onto them. At least this way the winner then would be the team that deserves it most, and wont be determined by accidents and/or injured riders.. Certainly has some merit. The key with the play offs is to time your run of form and stay injury free. Injuries will always have a bearing in any result no matter what system you come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 10 hours ago, ouch said: 2015 Gogglegate 2016 Woffygate 2017 Freddiegate 2018 ?????gate Belle Vue will not win the play offs, officialdom will see to that. I've read some paranoia on here but that takes the biscuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 12 hours ago, ouch said: 2015 Gogglegate 2016 Woffygate 2017 Freddiegate 2018 ?????gate Belle Vue will not win the play offs, officialdom will see to that. Tungate? 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 12 hours ago, poolebolton said: You were in the final in 2015??? I stand corrected, and against your lot as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 14 hours ago, stevebrum said: Absolutely! ! Everyone knows who should have been the champs tho. correct, the team with their name on the trophy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: I've read some paranoia on here but that takes the biscuit. What has happened has happened and I'm not one for what if. I go along with Hyderd that the champions are the team with their name on the trophy. However, the discussion was about what might have happened if certain riders had not been injured and whether Belle Vue have choked. I don't see it as paranoia in those circumstances to point out that results could have been different if Newman and Lindgren had been excluded and if Woffinden had not been allowed to return on an average which didn't reflect his ability at the time. All valid points if you are of the opinion that those decisions were wrong. Edited February 8, 2018 by Aces51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 From Bjerre being injured costing us against Coventry to more recent events one fact these events cant hide is over the past two seasons we have choked twice in the away leg at Monmore. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Aces51 said: What has happened has happened and I'm not one for what if. I go along with Hyderd that the champions are the team with their name on the trophy. However, the discussion was about what might have happened if certain riders had not been injured and whether Belle Vue have choked. I don't see it as paranoia in those circumstances to point out that results could have been different if Newman and Lindgren had been excluded and if Woffinden had not been allowed to return on an average which didn't reflect his ability at the time. All valid points if you are of the opinion that those decisions were wrong. All valid points and I'm sure Belle Vue have their fair share of shaftings in the past but to say that officialdom will ensure that you never win the play offs is a little far fetched. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: All valid points and I'm sure Belle Vue have their fair share of shaftings in the past but to say that officialdom will ensure that you never win the play offs is a little far fetched. Never, is perhaps going too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 11 hours ago, MrMungo said: Tungate? No chance. He will be a heat leader by the end of the season. No way would the powers that be ban an Aces heat leader from an end of season cup final. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 11 hours ago, ouch said: No chance. He will be a heat leader by the end of the season. No way would the powers that be ban an Aces heat leader from an end of season cup final. Matt Ford will implement a minimum height requirement from September 1st in the best interests of the sport. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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