arnieg Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 In a couple of threads I suggested that an easy way to produce assessed averages would be to I could do it in a couple of hours using data already in existence I'd use dolgin's rankings, starting by doing linear regression on all those riders who have 2017 British averages. That would give a formula that would provide an average for every rider. ( I would reduce the average of Americans by 10% because I think dolgin's methodology over-rates them). And finally I would round to the nearest half point). And I would use a 1.25 multiplier to go from PL to CL. I have now done it (and it took less than two hours) I used Dolgin's rankings at 30 September (topped by Tai Woffinden on 4701 ranking points and end of season PL GSA averages for all riders (61) with a PL GSA achieved in 2017 over 3.00. The regression formula came out as: Formula: Assessed Average = (ranking points – 1118) --------------------------------- 347.3 Here's the scatter graph: And the list of assessed riders (note it includes anyone without a PL or CL GSA achieved in 2017 (so it includes riders like Stefan Nielsen, Tobias Busch and Davey Watt) And a list of assessments: 10.5 Woffinden 10 Zmarzlik 9.5 Zagar Dudek Hancock 9 Laguta Laguta Pawlicki Pawlicki Sayfutdinov Vaculik Pedersen 8.5 Janowski Kolodziej hampel Iversen Milik Wozniak Jonsson 8 Lindback Drabik Kildemand Sundstrom Lebedevs Holta 7.5 Jepsen Jensen Miedzinski Protasiewicz Michelsen Ljung Woryna Bech Zengota 7 Smektala Okoniewski Thomsen Crump Jamrog Smolinski Mat Szczepaniak Mroczka Korneliussen 6.5 Janniro Jedrzejak K Gomolski Fajfer Wolbert Bogdanovs Karpov Buczkowski Przedpelski 6.5 Ulamek Czaja D Davidsson Kosciuch P Aspgren Pieszczek F Jakobsen Bach 6 Walasek Kudryashov J Davidsson Pavlic Lampart B Pedersen Jablonski Krcmar Jeleniewski 6 Covatti Puodzuks KK Hansen Lyager P Karlsson 5.5 M Ruml Franc M Nowak Berntzon Berge Gizatulin Gala Kroner Gafurov 5.5 D Balinski Miskowiak Kubera Kulakov Miesiac Tarasenko 5 Watt K Jablonski Brzozowski Karczmarz Kus Koza C Vissing J Andersson Eklof 5 Polis Palovaara Cyfer R Jensen Bober Hjelmland Borodulin 4.5 Fisher J Jorgensen Mazur Hartel Busk Jakobsen M B Andersen K Andersen Kostigovs Jeppesen 4.5 J Kling Dolny Busch Chugunov Thornblom Stachyra Ajtner Gollob A Gomolski Nissen 4.5 Adamczewski Borowicz Drodz T Sorensen Jedrzewski Skornicki Monberg Kaczmarek 4.5 Risager Tabaka Stichauer Kuciapa K Lykke 4 Lindman Melnichuk Grobauer Mads Hansen Z Holub St Nielsen S Burza Michalovs L Sowka 4 Fox Becker Manzares B Bast Nicol Novratil Thaysen Alden M Tresarrieu 4 Chmiel Castagna Melgren Sogaard Gruchalski Chalov Fierlej R Kling P Hansen 4 Adamczak Logachev F Eriksson Fienhage Tornqvist V Bergstrom Mag Karlsson suchanek Puszakowski 4 Dilger 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Good job. It must have taken you ages to format that table. Out of interest, what assessed averages do riders with a 2017 CMA come out at? That would be an good way to calibrate the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 That table makes a lot of sense, good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 If the BSPA were shown a scatter graph they would take one look at it and scatter !!!!!! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Excellent effort arnieg Such a shame the BSPA cant adopt this or something similar to remove the dubious thoughts many inevitably have with the current arrangements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 Based on Arnie's treatise, the three foreign newcomers announced for the CL would appear to be re-assessed as:- Andersson (Edinburgh) 5 x 1.25 = 6.25, LIndman (Berwick) 4 x 1.25 = 5.00, & Haertel (Ipswich) 5.5 x 1.25 = 5.63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted December 20, 2017 Report Share Posted December 20, 2017 No Holders?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Any truth in the whisper that the 9 point GP assessment is being dropped?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 52 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Any truth in the whisper that the 9 point GP assessment is being dropped?? It would be ludicrous to change the assessment now that some teams have signed riders so yes, it probably is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 If it's going to make speedway look stupid...then yes it will probably happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) http://dlvr.it/Q8m8QT So there is now a definitive list of in excess of 260 riders worldwide that have their 2018 averages set in black and white Lets see it then BSPA....... Edited January 3, 2018 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 excellent work arnieg In fairness to the bspa it seems making gp riders a 9 actualy makes sense whereas allowing woryna on a 4.5 is as ludicrous as many of us have been saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) . Edited January 4, 2018 by waiheke1 error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 So it seems that the rumoured re-assessment of certain assessed riders has indeed been re-assessed. The original 'independent' assessment has been assessed as being wrongly assessed so has been re-assessed for the coming season. I expect to see an announcement about the re-assessed assessments fairly soon. In fact I would assess that it will happen sometime before March - although I may well have to re-assess my assessment. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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