TonyE Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 They were probably aware of the speed at which the speedway problem resolution works and decided on Plan B instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Matt Ford Fan said: Unlucky Godfrey you come unstuck again. All the best to Scott and Eddie. Now we just need to get Max Clegg fixed up somewhere. He has a top flight team and NL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 10 hours ago, TonyE said: They were probably aware of the speed at which the speedway problem resolution works and decided on Plan B instead. Morris on a point less than Nicholls sounds like a pretty decent Plan B to me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 14 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: AGREEMENT REACHED OVER NEW RULES BRITISH Speedway bosses have held top level talks to mutually agree interpretation of new 2018 regulations. Members of both the British Speedway Promoters’ Association Management Committee (BSPA) and Speedway Control Bureau (SCB) have worked together to ensure more opportunities for home grown riders are available. In simple terms this means the high profile case of Scott Nicholls has now reached a satisfactory conclusion for all parties and this fine servant to British Speedway is now eligible to race in the middle tier, the SGB Championship. After deliberation an agreement was reached allowing further opportunities for the use of "home grown" riders ensuring that in particular Championship teams will all have the opportunity to commence the season on competitive terms. Riders who have previously been eligible for the old Conference League, or the current National Development League, are now eligible for the Championship. A BSPA spokesman said: "We are pleased to be working alongside the SCB to clarify and reach agreement over this very delicate issue and it is now time for us all to look ahead to the new season with much enthusiasm." An SCB spokesman said: "The members of the Bureau fully appreciate the complex issues facing promoters at this moment in time. "We are fully committed to assisting them to re-establish a firm foundation for the sport from which to move forward." If only they meant what they are saying BSPA must be sucking lemons now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, New era Panthers said: If only they meant what they are saying BSPA must be sucking lemons now. Give them a little credit. Their press release after a total reversal of one of their policies is almost up to political party standard. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said: Give them a little credit. Their press release after a total reversal of one of their policies is almost up to political party standard. Normally when things go against them, where possible they make no comment at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Halifaxtiger said: Morris on a point less than Nicholls sounds like a pretty decent Plan B to me. How can it be that Morris is on a point less than Nicholls in the CL (for which Nicholls had no average) when Morris has a (much) better PL average. The rules continue to be a joke!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, Steve0 said: How can it be that Morris is on a point less than Nicholls in the CL (for which Nicholls had no average) when Morris has a (much) better PL average. The rules continue to be a joke!! Because Morris averaged less in the Championship than the Premiership last season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Because Morris averaged less in the Championship than the Premiership last season! Which is why riders BPL averages converted should be used to determine their BCL averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 51 minutes ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: Which is why riders BPL averages converted should be used to determine their BCL averages. Leading to a situation whereby a converted average takes priority over an actual (on track) average which is far from ideal. Converted averages should only be used when none exists at the level the rider is performing at. Yes, Morris is an apparent anomaly performing worse at the lower level but that should not be used to support your argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, TonyE said: Leading to a situation whereby a converted average takes priority over an actual (on track) average which is far from ideal. Converted averages should only be used when none exists at the level the rider is performing at. Yes, Morris is an apparent anomaly performing worse at the lower level but that should not be used to support your argument. Still don’t understand why the GSA issued regularly cannot show an average (assessed or amended if needed) for both leagues so enabling team managers, officials, referees and supporters easy access to one reference point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 22 hours ago, TonyE said: Leading to a situation whereby a converted average takes priority over an actual (on track) average which is far from ideal. Converted averages should only be used when none exists at the level the rider is performing at. Yes, Morris is an apparent anomaly performing worse at the lower level but that should not be used to support your argument. Just don't think that riders above a certain BPL average should be allowed to ride in the BCL as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: Just don't think that riders above a certain BPL average should be allowed to ride in the BCL as well. That is a totally different argument! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 amazing what can happen when a rider has lawyers on his side 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 5 hours ago, dabbsjoe said: amazing what can happen when a rider has lawyers on his side WOULD have happened anyway. The SCB weren't going to back down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/24/2018 at 8:02 AM, Steve0 said: How can it be that Morris is on a point less than Nicholls in the CL (for which Nicholls had no average) when Morris has a (much) better PL average. The rules continue to be a joke!! That situation happens a lot, there are plenty of riders who have a higher Championship but a lower Premiership average than a fellow rider: Lawson & Holder, Wright & Barker, King & Schlein! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Can someone explain to me why this rule WAS illegal but now isn't? Surely it's even more illegal now because Scott and Ed can drop down (as could Woffinden) but Swedes, Danes and the French can't. Surely now Bellego is being victimised for being French and that IS illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 I can't see the issue with British riders riding in both leagues in their own country. Other countries do it. It's called looking after your own. Couldn't care less if the French or other nationalities can't double up as well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 34 minutes ago, stevebrum said: I can't see the issue with British riders riding in both leagues in their own country. Other countries do it. It's called looking after your own. Couldn't care less if the French or other nationalities can't double up as well. But thats illegal. TBH I'm with you. But I'm also appalled that class riders are allowed to ride in the Championship. The monkeys in charge should have simply banned anyone with an average over 6 from being able to drop down or double up. In stead we have this (illegal) mess now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, SCB said: The monkeys in charge should have simply banned anyone with an average over 6 from being able to drop down or double up. In stead we have this (illegal) mess now. Couldn't agree more with this, but opening the doors last season has led to this situation. Re Bellego, I am sure if he took legal action the rule would be dropped, seems the BSPA don't learn, but no surprise there 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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