moomin man 76 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 In an ideal world, I would simply scrap the 'doubling up' rule except for British riders under 21, but to do so it needs a larger rider pool than exists at the moment. To avoid the Kennett and Nicholls scenario, it would make more sense in the short-term to allow British riders to double up, but riders from other countries to be barred from doing so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieIpswich Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I would accept that those riders from the commonwealth should be able to double up, we will rely on our commonwealth brothers once brexit is complete Should still allow a good pool but we desperately need more young riders coming through which is why I was so disappointed that the championship team building averages were not set at 38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I would accept that those riders from the commonwealth should be able to double up, we will rely on our commonwealth brothers once brexit is complete Should still allow a good pool but we desperately need more young riders coming through which is why I was so disappointed that the championship team building averages were not set at 38 Why will Brexit change things, at worst, European riders might need a visa or work permit, they wont be banned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Bend Bunching Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 In an ideal world, I would simply scrap the 'doubling up' rule except for British riders under 21, but to do so it needs a larger rider pool than exists at the moment. To avoid the Kennett and Nicholls scenario, it would make more sense in the short-term to allow British riders to double up, but riders from other countries to be barred from doing so. I'd probably go with allow any riders to double up/down if Britain is the only country they ride in. This would protect riders like Doolan etc. who are loyal to British speedway but don't ride in foreign leagues. British riders could ride in both leagues if they wish even if they take part in foreign leagues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Yet another rule that beggars belief. I sure they make these rules up just to P**s people off. This rule does nothing to enhance our sport or reputation... No doubt a few promoters got together over a session of back scratching and came up with a stupid rule that would benefit their team...... You couldn't make this up........ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 British League Development League No need for doubling up/down or "set nights" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete cc Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Why will Brexit change things, at worst, European riders might need a visa or work permit, they wont be banned. Once we have left the EU riders will have to have a visa which can be used to stop any overseas rider taking the place of a British rider if one is available. If not a visa will be issued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Once we have left the EU riders will have to have a visa which can be used to stop any overseas rider taking the place of a British rider if one is available. If not a visa will be issued Is that what happens with Aussies at the moment then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 It's ridiculous allowing the likes of Cook (GP rider-British Champion-World Cup rider et)c to ride in Division 2 but not allow Scott Nicholls to do so also even though his average in Division 1 is lower that Cook's. Nick Morris is also allowed to ride in Division 2 who also has an average higher that Scott's. Scott Nicholls would be within his rights to consider taking this matter to a higher authority than The BSPA. Incidentally both Chris Harris & Rory Schlein averaged more than him also and they are allowed to continue to ride in Division 2. Perhaps Scott Nicholls and Edward Kennett should take the matter up with the ACU. Yet another rule that beggars belief. I sure they make these rules up just to P**s people off. This rule does nothing to enhance our sport or reputation... No doubt a few promoters got together over a session of back scratching and came up with a stupid rule that would benefit their team...... You couldn't make this up........ It’s obviously the rule is in place to shaft the building plans of sone of the teams, it’s nothing new to be fair, they play this stupid game every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket007 Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 As Scott was allowed to be a guest last season, can he be a guest this season? If he can still be a guest, what is there to stop a Team using him for every one of their meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 As Scott was allowed to be a guest last season, can he be a guest this season? If he can still be a guest, what is there to stop a Team using him for every one of their meetings. He was allowed to guest last season because he was allowed to ride in the CL. If the rule eventually stands then he won't be able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Strange how its not affected James Shanes, who only rode SGBP for Poole in 2017 apart from (like Scotty) a few end-of-season guest bookings in the SGBC!!? James has been allowed to sign for Sheffield - not sure yet if he will be doubling up/down or not?! Must be an 'age' thing or the fact that the Sheffield promoter is now on the MC???! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Just now, Skidder1 said: Strange how its not affected James Shanes, who only rode SGBP for Poole in 2017 apart from (like Scotty) a few end-of-season guest bookings in the SGBC!!? James has been allowed to sign for Sheffield - not sure yet if he will be doubling up/down or not?! Must be an 'age' thing or the fact that the Sheffield promoter is now on the MC???! It only affects riders with a top flight average of 6 and over Skidder1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 39 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Strange how its not affected James Shanes, who only rode SGBP for Poole in 2017 apart from (like Scotty) a few end-of-season guest bookings in the SGBC!!? James has been allowed to sign for Sheffield - not sure yet if he will be doubling up/down or not?! Must be an 'age' thing or the fact that the Sheffield promoter is now on the MC???! No, it's because it only applies to those with a PL average over 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Ah OK thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) i see in the speedy star this week looking at the situation again which hopefully it allows scot and eddie to double down Edited December 28, 2017 by ray c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 20 minutes ago, ray c said: i see in the speedy star this week looking at the situation again which hopefully it allows scot and eddie to double down A bit unfair on Lakeside if they do - as they were planning to use both! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 25 minutes ago, ray c said: i see in the speedy star this week looking at the situation again which hopefully it allows scot and eddie to double down I think Peterborough were after Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Steve0 said: A bit unfair on Lakeside if they do - as they were planning to use both! Which then had a domino effect on Sheffield and Berwick it seems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I think Peterborough were after Scott. not just were.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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