Stainlesssteelride Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) One season of relapse has caused all this issue. I dare say rules are made and changed in all sports on numerous occasions during the off season. So why didn't the SCB say lakeside could have used Scott and Eddie??? Some strange stuff going on, maybe ged has something on them and can pull all the strings, as he certainly seems to have things keep going in his favour. Edited February 21, 2018 by Stainlesssteelride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 5 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: THE SCB say yes ... THE BSPA say no. But as it is the SCB that sanction the rules and the are a higher authority than the BSPA the answer is most likely yes. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 5 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: PROBABLY not if, as has been suggested, Hancock or Woffinden could ride in the CL but not Kennett or Nicholls. Who suggested that? They are 9.00 riders so should not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 12 hours ago, E I Addio said: Then you'll have the CL promoters moaning that crowds are falling falling because people won't pay 18 quid to see a team with someone like Stuart Robson or J osh Bates in the No1 slot. What a mess it all is. Not sure that either rider would even be wanted by any team to ride as a number one. The other problem is the lack of enough quality riders to fill both leagues team positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 15 hours ago, Midland Red said: There's one way to sort it . . . Amalgamate into a proper BRITISH LEAGUE Wouldn't Nicholls and Kennett be excluded from an amalgamated league by virtue of the same rule - presuming one big league is at Championship standard? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 Reading 'The Role of the SCB' on their website, it states that every year they produce a 'Rule Book' (I am pretty certain they don't write it, that is the function of the BSPA) and, thereafter they adjudicate on 'interpretation and application of said rules' (it is not, in my opinion, within their remit, to approve, amend or delete rules). On that basis, if the BSPA wants to bar Premiership riders with an average over 6 who do not already have a Championship average, then I do not feel it is the SCB's role to go against them no matter how inequitable the issue becomes in respect of affected riders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 17 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: PROBABLY not if, as has been suggested, Hancock or Woffinden could ride in the CL but not Kennett or Nicholls. Pretty sure there is also a rule that stops Grand Prix riders from competing in the second divsion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Najjer said: Pretty sure there is also a rule that stops Grand Prix riders from competing in the second divsion. There isn't, which is immaterial as the disputed part of the rule is the existence of a valid CL average, which they don't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, Grachan said: Wrong decision, if so. Absolutely the right decision (and it doesn't just affect those two riders?). If they then also disqualified all the other riders in the CL with PL averages >6 then it would be clear but at the moment it is inequitable and unfair. Edited February 22, 2018 by SPEEDY69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twowheels Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 Something fundamentally wrong when you have the same rider number 1 in Cham/Prem. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Najjer said: Pretty sure there is also a rule that stops Grand Prix riders from competing in the second divsion. Never seen that one. Any current Championship rider could qualify (technically) for the GP Series and continue racing in that league. Craig Cook is the perfect example. He himself choose not to race in the Championship this season but because he has a valid average could have remained in that league this year if he wanted too. Carl Stonehewer also was a 2nd tier rider who also rode in the GP's. As is usual with the governing body the rules are written in such a way that some riders can ride in one league whilst others British riders with a much lower top flight average can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 I gather that Greg Hancock will be riding in the Scottish second division this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 14 hours ago, Hamish McRaker said: I gather that Greg Hancock will be riding in the Scottish second division this year Easy mistake, it's actually Greg McHancock who is riding in the Scottish 2nd division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 AGREEMENT REACHED OVER NEW RULES BRITISH Speedway bosses have held top level talks to mutually agree interpretation of new 2018 regulations. Members of both the British Speedway Promoters’ Association Management Committee (BSPA) and Speedway Control Bureau (SCB) have worked together to ensure more opportunities for home grown riders are available. In simple terms this means the high profile case of Scott Nicholls has now reached a satisfactory conclusion for all parties and this fine servant to British Speedway is now eligible to race in the middle tier, the SGB Championship. After deliberation an agreement was reached allowing further opportunities for the use of "home grown" riders ensuring that in particular Championship teams will all have the opportunity to commence the season on competitive terms. Riders who have previously been eligible for the old Conference League, or the current National Development League, are now eligible for the Championship. A BSPA spokesman said: "We are pleased to be working alongside the SCB to clarify and reach agreement over this very delicate issue and it is now time for us all to look ahead to the new season with much enthusiasm." An SCB spokesman said: "The members of the Bureau fully appreciate the complex issues facing promoters at this moment in time. "We are fully committed to assisting them to re-establish a firm foundation for the sport from which to move forward." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.33920 Scott wins. Well done him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 THE fact is that the original rule as drafted by the BSPA was illegal, not just in speedway terminology but law which is why the SCB steadfastly refused to accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 24 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: THE fact is that the original rule as drafted by the BSPA was illegal, not just in speedway terminology but law which is why the SCB steadfastly refused to accept it. Which is exactly what i said weeks ago, only to be shot down in flames by certain 'know all keyboard warriors' on here. Just proves that the people who tried to implement these 'rules' are incompetent... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Unlucky Godfrey you come unstuck again. All the best to Scott and Eddie. Now we just need to get Max Clegg fixed up somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I would imagine the Lakeside promotion are feeling a bit peeved. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 27 minutes ago, TonyE said: I would imagine the Lakeside promotion are feeling a bit peeved. They shouldn't have given up so easily - should have stood up to them like Ged does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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