MattK Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Does anyone know if the Championship team voted on this rule being re-instated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) On 2/2/2018 at 7:16 PM, Triple.H. said: Surely Eddie Kennett is easy to sort out an average. Use his last PL(2nd tier) average x multiplier(1.1 or 0.8 etc) so his average is equal to the strength of the current CL. Scott Nicholls one for the statto's How many guest appearances did he make in the PL last year. If not enough matches to form an average. Work out his average per ride and multiply by 4. Just what I said Edited February 5, 2018 by Barrow Boy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 02/02/2018 at 4:20 PM, Steve0 said: Why single Morris out? He rode in the CL last season so is allowed to ride. I agree that ALL riders with a PL average of a particular value shouldn't be allowed to double-up (currently 6 I believe) and not just those that didn't ride CL last year but I think it is unfair to single out individual riders. He is Swindon’s no. 1 on a near 9 point average. They set a rule that you can only have one per team but ignore doubling up - nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Connor Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 funny how the championship want pl riders but don't want to step up a league. That's the problem! For 2019 all averages converted to pl averages with cl cubs building to 21.25. No riders over 6. There after the conversion rate will we 50% . Half. would make the whole thing a lot more credible. plus it would mean any pl team would be unlikely to have more than 3 double up riders naturally. And more top nl brits would get a chance too. Especially if they came in on a 1.00 its odd how the championship clubs. Knowing the rules. Would hold out their team building efforts on unallowable riders. Move on. Build without. Peterborough are really becoming a nuicence club. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) Looks like holding out on team building has paid off for Peterborough after all. Edited February 18, 2018 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Looks like holding out on team building has paid off for Peterborough after all. Well if you think so,probably make not much difference unless they get rid of a few riders later on and have no money left as nicholls will not be cheap.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 Are any so called number 1s cheap? most teams at some point have to make changes, but more to the point is the unallowed rider is now as it seems allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stainlesssteelride Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 14 hours ago, Richard Weston said: The problem the BSPA has is announcing (or not!) a new rule with no warning, I can see the reasons for wanting to exclude Scott and Eddie BUT you shouldn't just bring it it. Why not say: From 2019 season, this is what will happen. If gives everyone time to adjust. Same thing applies over bringing in riders from overseas. The decision is arguable but a case can be made out. What is wrong, is bring it 'overnight' (and not announcing the change). These are simple management issues which should never arise in public. Anyway, who is in charge? You do realise that for the previous 20 odd seasons before, that the rule was in place? Then only relaxed it for one season. Did they give any advanced warning then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 14 hours ago, Richard Weston said: The problem the BSPA has is announcing (or not!) a new rule with no warning, I can see the reasons for wanting to exclude Scott and Eddie BUT you shouldn't just bring it it. Why not say: From 2019 season, this is what will happen. If gives everyone time to adjust. Same thing applies over bringing in riders from overseas. The decision is arguable but a case can be made out. What is wrong, is bring it 'overnight' (and not announcing the change). These are simple management issues which should never arise in public. Anyway, who is in charge? There has been no change in rule. As mentioned above, last year no rider had a top tier average, with everyone having one single average. As a result, everyone was eligible for the lower tier and some riders took advantage of that. This rule has been in effect for as long as I can remember - riders over 6.00 in the top tier cannot drop down. With regards the riders from overseas, the new visa restrictions were pretty well publicised a couple of years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Richard Weston said: I didn't realise the rule had been in place. The visa rules changed this year which is why that young American and some Oz lads were ruled out. They changed before this year. I think it was last year, but may even have been the year before. I remember reading about it. Those riders would have been ruled out last year too. (Edit - it was January 2015 - http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/3924/british-speedway-in-visa-crisis ) Edited February 19, 2018 by Grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 32 minutes ago, Richard Weston said: I thought I saw something this winter about top 3 from State finals in Oz being able to get a visa. I thought that was new. Maybe you should take some of the propagnada thrown about by riders and clubs with a pinch of salt and realise they're talking crap to make mugs who'll believe them feel sorry for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 Can someone tell me if Kennett and Scott can now double up. Or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 THE SCB say yes ... THE BSPA say no. But as it is the SCB that sanction the rules and the are a higher authority than the BSPA the answer is most likely yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: THE SCB say yes ... THE BSPA say no. But as it is the SCB that sanction the rules and the are a higher authority than the BSPA the answer is most likely yes. Wrong decision, if so. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 PROBABLY not if, as has been suggested, Hancock or Woffinden could ride in the CL but not Kennett or Nicholls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 There's one way to sort it . . . Amalgamate into a proper BRITISH LEAGUE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said: PROBABLY not if, as has been suggested, Hancock or Woffinden could ride in the CL but not Kennett or Nicholls. Whoever suggested that doesn't have a clue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Midland Red said: There's one way to sort it . . . Amalgamate into a proper BRITISH LEAGUE It's easily sortable. If you are BRITISH then you are eligible. Irrespective of average. Keep the 6 top flight minimum to drop down to any NON Brits. Sorted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, stevebrum said: It's easily sortable. If you are BRITISH then you are eligible. Irrespective of average. Keep the 6 top flight minimum to drop down to any NON Brits. Sorted. Then you'll have the CL promoters moaning that crowds are falling falling because people won't pay 18 quid to see a team with someone like Stuart Robson or J osh Bates in the No1 slot. What a mess it all is. Edited February 21, 2018 by E I Addio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, stevebrum said: It's easily sortable. If you are BRITISH then you are eligible. Irrespective of average. Keep the 6 top flight minimum to drop down to any NON Brits. Sorted. It was easily sorted for 20-odd years. Over 6? No deal, no exceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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