Hodgy Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Very disappointing. It was all going so well. Great track and line up with a logical start time for a mid March, Sunday meeting. Sadly the change will have a significant impact on the funds raised. The only clash I can see is a young driver, under 17 driving lessons event, 8am-5pm. Surely this isn’t the unforeseen, enforced reason for the time change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 To be honest they’d be better to have switched the meeting to the Saturday either afternoon or evening either would be better than Sunday evening in terms of raising money for a great cause . Sadly not a great start to the new season . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Surely the Showground agreed to the original start time and then changed their minds? Can't see why those running the meeting are getting it in the neck to be honest. Which begs the question if they had a contract with the EOES for the original time, why did they allow them to change the time, presumably without financial penalty. If that's the way speedway does business no wonder it's dying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stainlesssteelride Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Maybe it's not the showground? Surely if it was they would have said, instead of being secretive, but hey ho , secretive and speedway unfortunately go hand in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Been looking at the Young Drivers website and it appears the event on the 18th at the EOES is already fully booked which implies it must have been on the calendar for quite a while. As a large number of Peterboroughs home meetings are on Sundays this year it seems reasonable to assume that someone took it for granted it would be available for the Ben Fund without bothering to check before advertising the meeting. Such a shame because as others have said the change of time will probably have an effect on the number of fans attending. A total mis management of what could have been a good start to the speedway season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 My understanding is that change in start time is entirely down to the Showground, and the Peterborough Promotion and Ben Fund Organisers had no say in the matter. This happened a couple of times last season when the Showground bosses decided that their event should take priority over Speedway. Unfortunately at any venue which is not owned by the Speedway promotion the relationship with the landlords is to say the least tenuous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, wealdstone said: My understanding is that change in start time is entirely down to the Showground, and the Peterborough Promotion and Ben Fund Organisers had no say in the matter. This happened a couple of times last season when the Showground bosses decided that their event should take priority over Speedway. Unfortunately at any venue which is not owned by the Speedway promotion the relationship with the landlords is to say the least tenuous... In public it has always been an excellent working relationship and we're told that they want us there. That's always been hard to believe in the last 15 years or so and even more so in recent seasons. Edited March 1, 2018 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer1969 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, wealdstone said: My understanding is that change in start time is entirely down to the Showground, and the Peterborough Promotion and Ben Fund Organisers had no say in the matter. This happened a couple of times last season when the Showground bosses decided that their event should take priority over Speedway. Unfortunately at any venue which is not owned by the Speedway promotion the relationship with the landlords is to say the least tenuous... Not doubting you but would like to say if your information is correct then in future ,as I presume Peterborough speedway pay for the use of the EOES, they need to get everything in writing so that this type of mess up never happens again. All it has managed to achieve is upset speedway fans who were looking forward to the meeting and who are now not going to attend and the Ben Fund whose fund raising will suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, hammer1969 said: Not doubting you but would like to say if your information is correct then in future ,as I presume Peterborough speedway pay for the use of the EOES, they need to get everything in writing so that this type of mess up never happens again. All it has managed to achieve is upset speedway fans who were looking forward to the meeting and who are now not going to attend and the Ben Fund whose fund raising will suffer. The EoES say jump and we say how high. They'll never agree to us calling the shots. Have you ever seen anyone in Peterborough speedway management criticise the EoES management? No is the answer and that tells you all you need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Stupid change to 6.30pm start. Meeting won't finish to almost 9pm. Likely to be freezing cold and a very late return home whether I like it or not. Work next day so I'm not going now. Crowd minus one and by looks of it others not going. Gutted as its a good line up but the decision is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 7 hours ago, Mark said: Stupid change to 6.30pm start. Meeting won't finish to almost 9pm. Likely to be freezing cold and a very late return home whether I like it or not. Work next day so I'm not going now. Crowd minus one and by looks of it others not going. Gutted as its a good line up but the decision is ridiculous. Most including the organisers would likely agree with you. But as said earlier doubtful there was much choice, Showground management tend to ride rough shod over Speedway when it suits them. My suspicion is that Speedway is just fitted in around other events and is purely on a meeting by meeting basis with no formal contract. You will never hear the Speedway promotion being critical of the Showground probably I suspect because the reply will likely to be "if you don't like it do the other thing" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Surely the question was asked to the showground is there anything else on that day and what time can we have the showground from. Why announce a time that's not possible. An honest explanation would help. Smacks of poor planning but I'm guessing because we're never told anything. Told my wife and she said why do you follow it, the sports a shambles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 11 hours ago, Stainlesssteelride said: Maybe it's not the showground? Surely if it was they would have said, instead of being secretive, but hey ho , secretive and speedway unfortunately go hand in hand. I agree, there's never enough plain speaking and leads to the fans' mistrust of those 'in charge'. If it is the showground young drivers event then it's a mistake by the Panthers promotion surely as someone said that had been in the calendar for some time. I really hope it's not down to rider availability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 2 hours ago, wealdstone said: Most including the organisers would likely agree with you. But as said earlier doubtful there was much choice, Showground management tend to ride rough shod over Speedway when it suits them. My suspicion is that Speedway is just fitted in around other events and is purely on a meeting by meeting basis with no formal contract. You will never hear the Speedway promotion being critical of the Showground probably I suspect because the reply will likely to be "if you don't like it do the other thing" I'm sure the Peterborough management do not want the change but the time HAS changed just two weeks before the meeting. Loads of people would have made plans by now Maybe this was avoidable had those in charge ensured a change could not be made at this late stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ore Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Surely the important thing in all this is that the SRBF does not lose out . I am sure that there are no BSF posters who are unable to attend now who will not be paying the same sum into the fund. Nobody in the wonderful speedway family can be that narrow minded. There is no reason if you can't (or won't now) attend this meeting for contributions still not to be made. At least the petrol companies will then be the only losers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mr Ore said: Surely the important thing in all this is that the SRBF does not lose out . I am sure that there are no BSF posters who are unable to attend now who will not be paying the same sum into the fund. Nobody in the wonderful speedway family can be that narrow minded. There is no reason if you can't (or won't now) attend this meeting for contributions still not to be made. At least the petrol companies will then be the only losers. Well said, and totally agree. The change in start-time is far from ideal for some people, but the last thing that anyone wants to see is the Ben Fund miss out as a result. If you were planning to go, but now can't, there's still a chance for you to contribute here, by simply clicking on the 'Make A Donation' button: http://srbf.co.uk/ Edited March 2, 2018 by lucifer sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stainlesssteelride Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Maybe ged can make up the short fall from his Torun money. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Wonder what the track will be like after Peterborough have announced their P&P day for the 17th? Why can't the Ben Fund be on the 17th and PP on Sunday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 Suggest those that are not happy make their feelings known to Showground management. Not that they will care one jot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 minute ago, 2ndbendbeerhut said: Wonder what the track will be like after Peterborough have announced their P&P day for the 17th? Why can't the Ben Fund be on the 17th and PP on Sunday? The answer to that question is in this weeks Speedway Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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