ProudtobeaBrummie Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Dan Bewley Liam Carr (retired) Zach surely moved on I have heard Tom Perry is retiring in the Glasgow thread first ive heard of it . who else can be added to the list ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Unless Dan wants NL re extra money, he has nothing to learn from The NL. I understand his ave. in the Championship is too high to allow him to ride. I have not seen anywhere this ave. which prevents you from riding in the NL anymore. Anyone know what this ave is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Unless Dan wants NL re extra money, he has nothing to learn from The NL. I understand his ave. in the Championship is too high to allow him to ride. I have not seen anywhere this ave. which prevents you from riding in the NL anymore. Anyone know what this ave is ? I thought it was 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) Matt Williamson has said in the SS that he cannot ride in the NL in 2018 as his average is over 4. I think it also applied to Max Clegg at the start of this last year. The over 4 rule, though must only apply at the start of the season for team building as Clegg & Roynon came in during the season on 2 x CL average. Edited December 2, 2017 by IronScorpion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 The over 4 rule can't be right because Danny ayres has a 4.24 championship ave but has signed for mildenhall in the n/l. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbuck Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Trying to find my copy of the rule book to check it out. I thought riders with a Championship average of over 4 (or it might be 5!) couldn't ride in the National League unless they were under a certain age or had signed on for a NL club before joining a Championship club. (Something like that anyway - but who can fathom out speedway's infamous rule book?) Danny Ayres fulfills that criteria as to my knowledge he hasn't yet signed for a Championship club, and in the case of Adam Roynon last season, no Championship club apparently wanted him, so he would have been free to join Plymouth. No doubt someone with a mind-boggling knowledge of the rule book will correct me on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 More confusing so called rules..What are the facts as things stand for next season..not what May have been previously ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Without checking, the cut-off is 4.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) 19.9 TEAM COMPOSITION 19.9.1 The Initial Team Declaration may include current Championship riders, who are under 25 years-old with a Championship MA of 4.00 or below at the start of the season, riders with a Championship MA of 6.00 or below, provided they are not declared in a Championship 1-7 at the start of the season; and all of whom must hold a full UK Passport and have an ACU Licence Last season was 4 or 6. Who knows what 2018 may be. 19.9.1.3 An ex PL rider declared in a NDL Team at the start of the season will only be eligible to remain in the NDL should he join a SGB Premiership or Championship League Team, provided he is under 25-years old and joins the SGB Premiership or Championship League at less than 5.00. Or could be 5. Now confused. Edited December 3, 2017 by Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Its 4.00 for riders who start the season in the NL & Championship or who drop down partway through the season to do both leagues. But of course that rule was relaxed for Clegg & Carr this year who both had higher than 4.00 Championship averages. Also its been relaxed for Ayres for a while now as theres the 25 years old age limit which they ignore for him. So basically its pointless speculating as theyll just decide on a case by case basis Its different if they race NL only like Roynon in 2017 or start the season in the NL only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moleman27 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 I thought with Clegg and Carr their averages had dropped below 4 in the CL so could join a NL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 I thought with Clegg and Carr their averages had dropped below 4 in the CL so could join a NL team. The rules dont mention anything about mid season averages though. They only state averages at the start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Is Danny phillips returning in 2018 does anybody know ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Yes pretty sure Danny will be back 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) On 03/12/2017 at 9:00 PM, Islander15 said: Its 4.00 for riders who start the season in the NL & Championship or who drop down partway through the season to do both leagues. But of course that rule was relaxed for Clegg & Carr this year who both had higher than 4.00 Championship averages. Also its been relaxed for Ayres for a while now as theres the 25 years old age limit which they ignore for him. So basically its pointless speculating as theyll just decide on a case by case basis So at this moment Mildenhall have signed a potentially ineligible rider for 2018? If Danny Ayres signs for a PL or CL club, he can't sign for Mildenhall as well? Edited December 12, 2017 by WalterPlinge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, WalterPlinge said: So at this moment Mildenhall have signed a potentially ineligible rider for 2018? If Danny Ayres signs for a PL or CL club, he can't sign for Mildenhall as well? Technically. The rule has been relaxed for for a couple of years now though for him, so no reason to think otherwise. Edited December 12, 2017 by Islander15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 15 hours ago, Islander15 said: Technically. The rule has been relaxed for for a couple of years now though for him, so no reason to think otherwise. The U25 part of the rule was relaxed for Danny Ayres due to his late start in the sport not the average part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 On 13/12/2017 at 8:55 AM, Jayne said: The U25 part of the rule was relaxed for Danny Ayres due to his late start in the sport not the average part. Yeah I was talking about his age and said that on my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 So same average as last season but with 3 less teams.... The 3 pointers who are no where near ready will be required, and the old boys will all get spots. BUT I AM CONVINCED THIS WILL PUT AROUND TEN OR SO UP AND COMING RIDERS ON 5,6,and 7 Points will be without a club. Making the whole development league arguement redundant. Improving riders in Thier 2nd or 3rd seasons are not being developed at all, simply bring left to rot. Last year was bad with Stefan Nielson, Joe Jacobs, and James Sargent(off the top of my head) all without clubs, I fear 2018 we will have aprox double figures of decent, potential filled riders starting the season with no club, also meaning they are unable to guest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Whilst its sad that some names will be missing out on places there has been a huge shortfall in available riders to cover injuries over the past couple of years so those without places are likely to feature at some point. How teams are made up all depends upon the promotions and i suspect that a team filled largely with improving 4, 5 & 6 pointers will do well if as you state there are not enough new 3 pointers to go around? Personally id like to see new blood given time & a chance to develop rather than the current glut of 3 pointers with league experience but haven't improved their averages for several seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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