waiheke1 Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Mark said: To add to KK and Kolodziej - no chance with any luck. Very unlikely it would happen but if results went well for the Poles in the 2018 GP and Challenge there could be 7 in the 2019 GP's which is overload. I don't agree with wildcards for the challenge but would bend in the case of injury. Nor do I agree with a local wildcard which is pointless and unfair. Places should be earnt in the GP series not given away. Under the current rules I hope the rider who finished 4th in each qualfier gets the wild card. So you say with any luck wildcards wouldnt go to two poles but then reccomend giving to the riders who finished fourth, which would mean two poles and two brits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 9 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: TWO Poles? Are there two better candidates? Maybe it is unlikely, of the two i assume pawlicki would get it. Opening up a spot for Milik? In which case Hampel has to be considered unlucky, given his gp record, losing place due to injuries and form since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 17 hours ago, Fromafar said: It's ludicrous to have a local wildcard in such an important event, espiecially now that they cut down the number of qualification meetings.Lambert probably deserves one as up and coming rider ,not sure who else though.Certainly not Harris at his level now. 16 hours ago, f-s-p said: Yes but no. Not even gonna check the rulebook, but SEC challenge was 11k in prize money to be paid by the organiser. GP Challenge is most likely more. Now imagine this meeting in Landshut without a single German rider… I dont like Landshut the track either, but we need every organiser there is for these events. If they're going with local wildcards they should have the GP Challenge in Britain at Belle Vue. That way, there's no need for "local" wildcards as such but a genuine challenger given 1 of the 4 wildcards. This would also benefit British fans and almost compensates for just 1 GP round. Belle Vue would get plenty in for a meeting like this from up and down the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 43 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: If they're going with local wildcards they should have the GP Challenge in Britain at Belle Vue. That way, there's no need for "local" wildcards as such but a genuine challenger given 1 of the 4 wildcards. This would also benefit British fans and almost compensates for just 1 GP round. Belle Vue would get plenty in for a meeting like this from up and down the country. You’re assuming a brit would get through... Splash the cash and make BV apply for it 2019. You still have a few months time to gather momemtum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, waiheke1 said: So you say with any luck wildcards wouldnt go to two poles but then reccomend giving to the riders who finished fourth, which would mean two poles and two brits? Don't agree with wild cards. Do agree with top 4 from the 4 qualifiers getting a spot in the final. If they are from Poland, Sweden or GB I do not care but that would be my rule. Earn your place. Edited May 23, 2018 by Mark 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 It's only in Speedway that a person trying to get to the top of his sport is hampered by Promoters throwing a wildcard in to try and get a few more locals to attend the meeting,if the sport cannot attract a crowd for the field of that stature it is in trouble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 10 hours ago, Fromafar said: It's only in Speedway that a person trying to get to the top of his sport is hampered by Promoters throwing a wildcard in to try and get a few more locals to attend the meeting,if the sport cannot attract a crowd for the field of that stature it is in trouble. By that definition speedway is in better health than it was in the 60s/70s when the host nation was guaranteed at least 4 places.... Fwiw im against wildcards for the qualifying rounds, though do understand that if no local qualifies the "top placed non qualifier" getting that spot (personally id have 4 regional based quarter finals -something like the old overseas, nordic and continental semi finals, followed by inter-conitinental/continental type round, with 8 from each progressing to the challenge (or 7+top ranked gp challenge non qualifier). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 On 5/23/2018 at 3:42 PM, Fromafar said: It's only in Speedway that a person trying to get to the top of his sport is hampered by Promoters throwing a wildcard in to try and get a few more locals to attend the meeting,if the sport cannot attract a crowd for the field of that stature it is in trouble. The sport is in trouble if you haven’t noticed!!It is difficult to get tracks to host meetings,that is why we are told the SWC which many thought was the best competition in speedway has been dropped.We have had the same tracks hosting competitions over and over and over again,until one drops out because it makes nothing out of them and a search for the next mug starts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, iris123 said: The sport is in trouble if you haven’t noticed!!It is difficult to get tracks to host meetings,that is why we are told the SWC which many thought was the best competition in speedway has been dropped.We have had the same tracks hosting competitions over and over and over again,until one drops out because it makes nothing out of them and a search for the next mug starts.... 19 minutes ago, iris123 said: The sport is in trouble if you haven’t noticed!!It is difficult to get tracks to host meetings,that is why we are told the SWC which many thought was the best competition in speedway has been dropped.We have had the same tracks hosting competitions over and over and over again,until one drops out because it makes nothing out of them and a search for the next mug starts.... I had noticed,Thanks.I also have my own thoughts which I have documented on this forum many times like a lot of like minded fans,but we are just " forum fannies"to many.The chickens are on their way home to roost for speedway in GB .IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 FIM are taking their time naming the wildcards ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 FIM seems to have declined DMSB's wish to have Huckenbeck as a the local wildcard and gave it to Smolinski instead. http://www.speedweek.com/speedwaywm/news/127845/Challenge-Skandal-FIM-boykottiert-Kai-Huckenbeck.html#.WxgsK2hATDE.facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunichMassive Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 Big scandal in Germany, but i dont think anyone in this Forum gives a damn about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 On 6/6/2018 at 7:52 PM, DutchGrasstrack said: FIM seems to have declined DMSB's wish to have Huckenbeck as a the local wildcard and gave it to Smolinski instead. http://www.speedweek.com/speedwaywm/news/127845/Challenge-Skandal-FIM-boykottiert-Kai-Huckenbeck.html#.WxgsK2hATDE.facebook Seems the same kind of situation that Martin Smolinski is the favourite regardless of form in the same way Chris Harris always got the pick regardless of form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Lambert's performance yesterday will hopefully be enough to secure one of the wildcards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 4 hours ago, The Cheese said: Lambert's performance yesterday will hopefully be enough to secure one of the wildcards I d suggest that regardless of the gp challenge, if Lambert keeps his league form in England, Sweden, and Poland all season then his SON performance will put him on the radar for a perminant wild card for 2019 (assuming Cookie misses top 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Another desperate move from Lindgren, this time its Janowski on the receiving end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 15 minutes ago, screm said: Another desperate move from Lindgren, this time its Janowski on the receiving end. I thought the meeting is the SON not a qualifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 Matej Zagar, Antonio Lindbäck, Janusz Kolodziej, Krzysztof Kasprzak, Jack Holder, Niels Kristian Iversen, Kenneth Bjerre, David Bellego, Kevin Wolbert, Craig Cook, Max Fricke, Hans Andersen German Wild Card - Smolinski or Huckenbeck Three Wild Cards Jaroslaw Hampel and Leon Madsen must be up for a slot and both good enough to be GP riders and would like to see Robert Lambert given a place but GB get very little usually so would expect Vaclav Milik to have more chance of getting a nomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 IMO there is no need to waste a wild card on Hampel but I am all for a wild card each to Lambert and Milik. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 People tend to forget that in 2015 when he got injured riding the in SWC Hampel was 3rd in the SGP rankings after 3 rounds, having made both finals. The first GP of the year only lasted 12 heats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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