Trees Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 3 hours ago, phillipsr said: Couldnt disagree more and it hasnt worked in the past.. the polish kids are far and away the best in the world because they get used to riding under pressure early on. Tai Woffinden also rode in Poland early in his carrer and he is our only top line rider... if you want to get to the top you need to get used to riding under pressure Pity that Tsi isn't 'ours' anymore though, he might as well be Polish not racing in his home country! Something that I never want to see Robert n Dan do but that's me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Trees said: Pity that Tsi isn't 'ours' anymore though, he might as well be Polish not racing in his home country! Something that I never want to see Robert n Dan do but that's me.... I am quietly confident that that is in the long term game plan for Robert and Dan because those who are most talented deserve the best rewards. And those best rewards are in Poland, Sweden and the GP. If you get to that level it is hardly worth doing the UK for the rewards on offer. That is what Tai is doing now and the very best of British talent who can truly cut the mustard, will emulate him. And Good Luck to them. The relatively low level financial rewards here are as a result of mis-management by British promoters over the last 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Said a couple of seasons ago that Lasse Fredricksen from Norway looks a good prospect.He has had a fairly decent weekend with 15 points but losing out on the semi final at Gustrow then this performance in Slangerup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 58 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: I am quietly confident that that is in the long term game plan for Robert and Dan because those who are most talented deserve the best rewards. And those best rewards are in Poland, Sweden and the GP. If you get to that level it is hardly worth doing the UK for the rewards on offer. That is what Tai is doing now and the very best of British talent who can truly cut the mustard, will emulate him. And Good Luck to them. The relatively low level financial rewards here are as a result of mis-management by British promoters over the last 20 years. Hope you’re wrong m8, it’s a personal choice by Tai to not race here, others have done all leagues over the years and become World Champion, of course riders from other European countries have to race in their own league, I like that rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 The GP qualifying is tough this year isn't it? Lambert and Bomber unlucky not to qualify although I think Lambert will get a wildcard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 We'd all (well most) like Tai to ride here but if he felt his schedule was too busy with three leagues and GP's then Britian was always the league he was going to drop. I think his results since cutting down speak for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 bomber is the top scoring non qualifier so more than anybody he deserves a wild card but there should be no wildcard at all at world championship level 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Lambert, Hampel, Milik likely candidates for the wildcard places? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduds1 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Trees said: Hope you’re wrong m8, it’s a personal choice by Tai to not race here, others have done all leagues over the years and become World Champion, of course riders from other European countries have to race in their own league, I like that rule Why do you whinge & cry so much about Woffinden not riding in this country when judging by most of your post's you don't like the bloke. So why would you want to go and watch him, therefore making his appearence in this country irrelevant to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: bomber is the top scoring non qualifier so more than anybody he deserves a wild card but there should be no wildcard at all at world championship level I think Hampel scored the same as Bomber in a slightly harder meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welwyn Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, waiheke1 said: Lambert, Hampel, Milik likely candidates for the wildcard places? Possibly. Hopefully FIM announce them before Cardiff, might be a few guys looking on a wildcard as a possibly way back-in at the halfway stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, HenryW said: Brits have helped each other in the past...I guess the question is maybe whether there was anyone there to make the riders aware of the situation. In his first big meeting I can imagine that Dan wouldn't have been thinking about permutations for others...Even Robert might not have been thinking of Dan as a threat given his performance up to then...they would have needed someone to have a word...and I'm guessing no-one did that. Edit - Just saw teaboys comment. Hopefully Lambert will get one of the wildcards. Harris, not so much. Exactly, Lambert would have thought Bewley was no danger to him, therefor no one in his camp bothered to ask Dan to not get in the way. So people should not blame young Bewley. Edited May 20, 2018 by tyler42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 3 hours ago, tyler42 said: Exactly, Lambert would have thought Bewley was no danger to him, therefor no one in his camp bothered to ask Dan to not get in the way. So people should not blame young Bewley. He wouldn't be the first to underestimate Dan. I think Bewley did remarkably well for his first attempt at this level. Wrong helmet colour in his first ride, probably wasn't aware of the different FIM rule, last in his next ride when he was losing compression and his engine eventually gave up the ghost, a third behind KK and NKI, a second behind Kurtz and then a win in front of Lambert. I'm sure some lessons learnt and valuable experience gained and enough points to show he has nothing to fear at this level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 6 hours ago, tyler42 said: Exactly, Lambert would have thought Bewley was no danger to him, therefor no one in his camp bothered to ask Dan to not get in the way. So people should not blame young Bewley. You know it for certain, that Lambert thought Bewley was no danger, or are you having a wild guess with no knowledge ? They both ride in England and Bewley has been cleaning up points. How could Lambert think he was no danger. He's not stupid or blind. Why should Bewley get out of Lambert's way ? Are we accepting that we openly cheat to throw races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) How do you ever get to the place where you have the wrong helmet cover for your first ride in a individual meeting ? Edited May 20, 2018 by Grand Central 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iand Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, Grand Central said: How do you ever get to the place where you have the wrong helmet cover for your first ride in a individual meeting ? Was on gate 3, would that be a white or green helmet cover. Personally no idea on a FIM meeting which one it would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 28 minutes ago, Grand Central said: How do you ever get to the place where you have the wrong helmet cover for your first ride in a individual meeting ? Unfortunately this seems to have been caused by the UK being inconsistent with FIM rules. Dan was on gate 4 and used his UK yellow and black... the problem is that FIM meetings require solid yellow. A silly mistake but one I'm sure he won't make again now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler42 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark said: You know it for certain, that Lambert thought Bewley was no danger, or are you having a wild guess with no knowledge ? They both ride in England and Bewley has been cleaning up points. How could Lambert think he was no danger. He's not stupid or blind. Why should Bewley get out of Lambert's way ? Are we accepting that we openly cheat to throw races. Of course i don't know for certain what the thinking was in the Lambert camp, but throughout the years it has been the done thing (not cheating, but helping a fellow country man if yourself had no chance of qualifying) i.e Joe screen for Mark Loram John Davis for Michale Lee etc etc. So i go back to what i said earlier. If the Lambert camp had, had a quite word, then things might have turned out differently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, HenryW said: Unfortunately this seems to have been caused by the UK being inconsistent with FIM rules. Dan was on gate 4 and used his UK yellow and black... the problem is that FIM meetings require solid yellow. A silly mistake but one I'm sure he won't make again now. Ahh ... That makes a lot more sense. Not the 'wrong colour' really. Yes a silly mistake and almost a 'technicality' rather than being idiotic as it first seemed. But the FIM rules are crystal clear and I suppose to the continentals it probably looked downright weird as they use the plain yellow everywhere. Pity not a single person was able to give the lad the nod before it was too late. i thought green or white thing mentioned sounded stupid and couldn't be the reason. Edited May 20, 2018 by Grand Central 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 35 minutes ago, Grand Central said: Ahh ... That makes a lot more sense. Not the 'wrong colour' really. Yes a silly mistake and almost a 'technicality' rather than being idiotic as it first seemed. But the FIM rules are crystal clear and I suppose to the continentals it probably looked downright weird as they use the plain yellow everywhere. Pity not a single person was able to give the lad the nod before it was too late. i thought green or white thing mentioned sounded stupid and couldn't be the reason. So we need to ditch the yellow/black then he can’t make the mistake again, nor will any other British rider?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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