geoff100 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Looking at some of the teams being declared in our league with no double up to worry about its going to finish some teams.certain clubs have pleaded poverty for a while and can sign riders who wont be cheap and glasgows win at any cost attitude will be the ruin of the league.its the final nail for some i fear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 To be fair I think set nights this year is the only positive move other than getting rid up of the TR to come out of this years AGM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Looking at some of the teams being declared in our league with no double up to worry about its going to finish some teams.certain clubs have pleaded poverty for a while and can sign riders who wont be cheap and glasgows win at any cost attitude will be the ruin of the league.its the final nail for some i fear. i actually think its a very good move to have set race days,as to Glasgow having a win at all cost attitude,do they really?,i dont think they have,they have maybe a larger budget that most but there is no problem with that,thats life--good luck to them 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Looking at some of the teams being declared in our league with no double up to worry about its going to finish some teams.certain clubs have pleaded poverty for a while and can sign riders who wont be cheap and glasgows win at any cost attitude will be the ruin of the league.its the final nail for some i fear. As far as I can see Glasgow are signing the best team they can for GLASGOW. Am I missing something but I was under the impression that doing what is best for your own club is what a promotion are supposed to do. Perhaps if your own club got there finger out then you wouldn't need to come on here moaning about what other clubs are doing. Can't blame other teams for some teams shortcomings that is always the easy cop out. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedcarRacer Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Looking at some of the teams being declared in our league with no double up to worry about its going to finish some teams.certain clubs have pleaded poverty for a while and can sign riders who wont be cheap and glasgows win at any cost attitude will be the ruin of the league.its the final nail for some i fear. It is no different to any season, there are always some clubs willing to throw more money at it than others - that dates back to the 1970s not just now - talking nonsense...as Glasgow have proved in recent seasons, money isnt always the answer. Yes on paper they should win it, doesnt mean they will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Looking at some of the teams being declared in our league with no double up to worry about its going to finish some teams.certain clubs have pleaded poverty for a while and can sign riders who wont be cheap and glasgows win at any cost attitude will be the ruin of the league.its the final nail for some i fear. Set race nights had to come in, unfortunately the monster that was created in doubling up (or rather the monster it grew into) meant that last season was just ridiculous in terms of who was riding for who and why! Glasgow don't have a win at all costs attitude, as Gazc says they do what is best for Glasgow, the fact that they pay more to the riders does mean that they can entice virtually who they want, but that is the fortunate position they are in currently. It's not like Man City/Man Utd/Chelsea etc getting the best players by paying most it doesn't guarantee success, the trick for Glasgow is to entice the right riders!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 set nights hasnt changed much for our league apart from theres no top flight clubs riding at same time which pull riders away but i agree with you that there is a possibility of some clubs that can atract riders by better deals that is affecting the other clubs who have to pay more than they can afford to sign riders once 1 club starts paying better than the average rate then all others are competing against that 1 club its the same with all types of buisness if 1 firm on a large industrial estate is paying better wages then all the other firms loose staff to that firm when jobs are available sadly its just a fact of life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Looking at some of the teams being declared in our league with no double up to worry about its going to finish some teams.certain clubs have pleaded poverty for a while and can sign riders who wont be cheap and glasgows win at any cost attitude will be the ruin of the league.its the final nail for some i fear. Ah so , it's not the winning , but the taking part that counts . That's where we've been going wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 What Championship clubs used to use a Monday or Wednesday ?,,, so how does the set days affect it ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyfox Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 What Championship clubs used to use a Monday or Wednesday ?,,, so how does the set days affect it ? It affects by Keeping the Premiership on Monday and Wednesday & not clashing with the Championship for doubling up riders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 It affects by Keeping the Premiership on Monday and Wednesday & not clashing with the Championship for doubling up riders. yeah, a get that,,,, but dunno how it ruins the Championship. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 As far as I can see Glasgow are signing the best team they can for GLASGOW. Am I missing something but I was under the impression that doing what is best for your own club is what a promotion are supposed to do. Perhaps if your own club got there finger out then you wouldn't need to come on here moaning about what other clubs are doing. Can't blame other teams for some teams shortcomings that is always the easy cop out. cant argue with what your saying here but im not so sure its a good thing for the sport but hey its like celtic in the scotish football league aint it they have the money to sign who they want so the others pick up the rest It affects by Keeping the Premiership on Monday and Wednesday & not clashing with the Championship for doubling up riders. which is what they wanted no clash with poland, gp week ends or sweeden and denmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Don't really get what people are saying about Glasgow, they have to adhere to the same points limit as anyone else. But of a defeatist attitude to be conceding the title to them already! And they have to be praised for going British. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Don't really get what people are saying about Glasgow, they have to adhere to the same points limit as anyone else. . is it because, an 8.5 ave. rider on £100 pt,,, is better than an 8.5 ave. rider on £50 pt ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 is it because, an 8.5 ave. rider on £100 pt,,, is better than an 8.5 ave. rider on £50 pt ? more to the point a improving rider on 8.5 average is getting £100 a point so a rider in decline on 8.5 average wants £120 a point because the new kid on the block is getting £100 a point from the richer clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 more to the point a improving rider on 8.5 average is getting £100 a point so a rider in decline on 8.5 average wants £120 a point because the new kid on the block is getting £100 a point from the richer clubs Yeah,,,, that sounds about right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I find it ironic that the BSPA have been heavily criticised for bringing in a rule that Premier League clubs can only sign one 8+ point average rider. No such rule applies in the Championship, which now looks like being split between half a dozen clubs who are signing all the genuine heat leaders and the remaining four / five clubs who will be without, and who have to try and build "strength in depth" teams. All of which is leading fans of these Championship clubs to complain about "haves and have nots". Damned if you do....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Looking at some of the teams being declared in our league with no double up to worry about its going to finish some teams.certain clubs have pleaded poverty for a while and can sign riders who wont be cheap and glasgows win at any cost attitude will be the ruin of the league.its the final nail for some i fear.Apart from Harris I'm not that impressed with Glasgow's team so far 😵 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Don't really get what people are saying about Glasgow, they have to adhere to the same points limit as anyone else. But of a defeatist attitude to be conceding the title to them already! And they have to be praised for going British. Thats a very good point,the points limit is the same for all, i hear of Glasgow paying £100 a point etc for 8.5 rider,but a im not sure i believe it,seems they told Luna to stick it due to his demands,so it not all pounds pounds pounds Other other point is there seems to be an awfull disease in the UK these days where folk get pished off about others earing money or being successfull,i just dont get it or understand where it came from,never really used to be the case What ever happened to the point of admiring success and being happy for people,was it the banking crisis or that Loon Corbyn stiring up hate against the successfull,who knows,but it not nice 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) I find it ironic that the BSPA have been heavily criticised for bringing in a rule that Premier League clubs can only sign one 8+ point average rider. No such rule applies in the Championship, which now looks like being split between half a dozen clubs who are signing all the genuine heat leaders and the remaining four / five clubs who will be without, and who have to try and build "strength in depth" teams. All of which is leading fans of these Championship clubs to complain about "haves and have nots". Damned if you do....... Some times its thoose teams no out right no1 but 6 or 7 strong team members that gell and are a problem for the teams with 1 strong rider and very weak reserves 1 rider cant score enough points to win a meeting Edited November 30, 2017 by scarra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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