DC2 Posted November 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 I'd love to be involved in the sport and summoned to HQ for a dressing down where they say they'll throw the rulebook at me ...... except there isn’t really a rule book - you’d be stalked every night through the season by a shady promoter scribbling new rules on post it notes and fag packets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailays Hat Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 A simple case of restraint of trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 So Scott could guest last season in the Championship but cannot ride this season in the Championship? Ok.... That makes sense... Once again it is one of those needless 'let's add this on' rules that frustrate the Sport's followers and sees us looking at the sport in a negative way.... (And that never can be good for a business) Now, there may be a genuinely great reason why Scott cannot ride in the Championship with a converted Premiership average... However typically with the BSPA, you never get the rationale behind any ruling.... Start sharing the rationale for decisions made and maybe they would get a better hearing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 It wouldn't have anything to do with him refusing to ride for team GB all those years ago.... 🤔 not unheard of for the BSPA to hold a grudge! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseq7 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 A simple case of restraint of trade. Spot on. I'm just waiting for a rich sponsor or campaigning lawyer to come along and "do a Bosman" and we'd see that the whole BSPA house of cards will come tumbling down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 According to the meeting at Peterborough last night, the same supposed rule will also stop Kennett dropping down a division. If this is the case Lakeside may need to reconsider if the rumours are true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 The 'stupidity' of the rule is that it is, effectively, a life time ban from the Championship (or until such time as said riders get their averages in the Premier below six points). As I, and others, have said before, it is a 'restraint of trade' issue which would not survive a first legal hearing given the fact that others with similar PL averages are allowed to compete in the Championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 It’s total madness and contradicts the promoters’ frequently quoted rationale of “cost-cutting”. Obviously, it would be cheaper to allow Nicholls and Kennett to double up rather than have to fly in the likes of Riss, Bjerre, Jørgensen, Palm Toft, Lindgren and Heartel, not to mention the Aussie brigade who think we owe them a living! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I don't think Nicholls should be in the CL. The problem is, Harris and Morris are allowed to be. Even Cook would be allowed to be if he wanted to. It's actually a sensible move. If teams want riders of that caliber then move up. The 'stupidity' of the rule is that it is, effectively, a life time ban from the Championship (or until such time as said riders get their averages in the Premier below six points). That's always how it used to be. I still remember Richard Hellsen's comedy last band in order to stay below 6.00 with much amusement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I don't think Nicholls should be in the CL. The problem is, Harris and Morris are allowed to be. Even Cook would be allowed to be if he wanted to. It's actually a sensible move. If teams want riders of that caliber then move up. That's always how it used to be. I still remember Richard Hellsen's comedy last band in order to stay below 6.00 with much amusement. You have highlighted the key issue - 'consistency' of application across PL riders with similar averages. It either applies to all or none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 so we are stopping an experienced brit who could pass on sound good advice to youngsters from doubling up,but allowing aussies with a higher average than him to double up,when are we going to try and put the GREAT back into britain. It is ok to have the experienced riders passing on sound advice to youngsters in the NL picking up an easy pay check but not in the CL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Isnt a bugger problem that Greaves, Williamson, Perks, Ash Morris etc are all struggling to get Championship places? Yet they all proved last season that theyre good enough to warrant places. The first 3s averages went up significantly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 There were 38 Premiership riders who achieved an average of 6 and above last season. Of those, 18 rode in the Championship and remain eligible to do so in 2018. Of the remaining 20, very few would be interested as they have, or will have, teams lined up in Sweden/Poland etc. So, apart from Scott and Edward, there might have been a glimmer of interest from riders such as Timo Lahti or David Bellego but I suspect that's about it. So why shut the stable door now? The horse has already bolted! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Isnt a bugger problem that Greaves, Williamson, Perks, Ash Morris etc are all struggling to get Championship places? Yet they all proved last season that theyre good enough to warrant places. The first 3s averages went up significantly. I think its too early to say they are struggling to get places - long way to go until all teams complete. Id be confident they will all be in - and so they should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANANAMAN Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 cowboy cookie returns?, on 28 Nov 2017 - 06:45 AM, said:It wouldn't have anything to do with him refusing to ride for team GB all those years ago.... not unheard of for the BSPA to hold a grudge! Totally reeks of pay back time doesn't it ? They have waited , but got him ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Totally reeks of pay back time doesn't it ? They have waited , but got him ! So why the award a few weeks ago? To lull him into a false sense of security?? Edited November 28, 2017 by Steve Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 BSPA SHOWING THEY HAVE NOT CHANGED. Still promoters going their own way and stabbing others in the back whether it be riders or other promoters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 BSPA seem to go out of their way to complicate the rule.How can a rider who was instrumental in deciding who WON the Championship and KO cup last season,be ban from riding in the same league this season,total joke! Will he be allowed to guest this season? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Absolute joke the BSPA never fail to deliver. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 I think we are going to see a U-Turn in this decision. Nick Morris a Premiership No.1 can D/UP but Nicholls cant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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