Ommer Mon Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Well I'm delighted withthe approach from the promoters. We've got some of the most promising youngster in the sport and I'm really looking forward to seeing them. Don't forget a strong, successful Cradley team = plenty of away support and that must be good news for the Clubs we will be visiting. Sad that we've only got 'half a season' but it's better than the alternative of sitting at home on race nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Dwyer signing changes things. Under previous season’s rules all riders have to have a permanent spot but something must have changed to allow the Dwyer signing. So riders out of work, like Bowtell, could have got a NL ride. Also NT meetings don’t count towards an average, so how will he get a 2018 average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Islander15 said: Dwyer signing changes things. Under previous season’s rules all riders have to have a permanent spot but something must have changed to allow the Dwyer signing. So riders out of work, like Bowtell, could have got a NL ride. Also NT meetings don’t count towards an average, so how will he get a 2018 average? Very good question and does seem a slightly bizarre move from both parties? Why would Cradley want a rider who is only doing 8 meetings and would be very rusty compared to others & why would Dwyer turn down a full team place to just do 8 meetings? I assume that his average will remain the same as effectively he is taking a year out from league racing the same as Chessell is starting 2018 on his 2016 average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 42 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Very good question and does seem a slightly bizarre move from both parties? Why would Cradley want a rider who is only doing 8 meetings and would be very rusty compared to others & why would Dwyer turn down a full team place to just do 8 meetings? I assume that his average will remain the same as effectively he is taking a year out from league racing the same as Chessell is starting 2018 on his 2016 average? Thanks for clearing that up then Sings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) Cradley will have seven 'guests'... A good few tracks (as is often the case every year) will run at some stage during the season with four 'guests' and rider replacement... Not that much different is it? Both scenarios being farcical, however.. This is British Speedway don't forget, so hardly any surprise there... And fans are more than well used to it by now, so those who still attend will accept any nonsense put out before them... So fair play to those in charge for continually serving it up... Edited January 30, 2018 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, mikebv said: Cradley will have seven 'guests'... A good few tracks (as is often the case every year) will run at some stage during the season with four 'guests' and rider replacement... Not that much different is it? Both scenarios being farcical, however.. This is British Speedway don't forget so no surprises there... And fans are more than well used to it by now, so those who still attend will accept any nonsense put out before them... So fair play to those in charge for continually serving it up... Exactly so just because multiple guests happen already, doesn’t mean it should be actively encouraged. Not that it’s Cradley’s fault for choosing the best riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJ81 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Technically as Connor isn't riding for anyone else (yet) he wouldn't be a guest . Surprised he has turned down a place with another team full time in the Northern Section so he can ride for us, but I'm glad to see someone from last year come back. Not sure if any of the others can fit, or are available but would be nice to retain a flavour of last year if possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathen1984 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Brad andrews will be last wont he!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, Heathen1984 said: Brad andrews will be last wont he!! More than likely but at least he tries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iand Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) What happens to the Cradley riders averages, when their averages are updated during the season when riding for their parent club? Edited January 30, 2018 by iand Grammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I think like a lot of supporters I'm beyond caring now as it'll be made up as the season goes along. What credibility ( I do lose the word lightly)the NT had has long since gone out the window. I envy BV not being involved in it , sounds a bit harsh but think deep down a few clubs probably wish they were not involved in it. I'm not anti Cradley and never want to see a team cease, but this doesn't seem the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 hours ago, iand said: What happens to the Cradley riders averages, when their averages are updated during the season when riding for their parent club? Providing Cradley use / can use all the named riders in every meeting then it doesn't really matter if they go up/down as its the same as any other starting 7. The only issue comes when a rider is unavailable its then the question of should the guests be based upon the original starting average or current average? Oh and riding order of course as Kemp & Edwards are most likely to hit averages higher than Dwyer has during the season so that should drop him down to reserve? Been said several times but Cradley & the NT have little to gain credibility wise as if they win everyone will accuse of cherry picking if they lose (and i personally don't think they will win overall) there will be many chuckling. That said still nice to see them on track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iand Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: Providing Cradley use / can use all the named riders in every meeting then it doesn't really matter if they go up/down as its the same as any other starting 7. The only issue comes when a rider is unavailable its then the question of should the guests be based upon the original starting average or current average? Oh and riding order of course as Kemp & Edwards are most likely to hit averages higher than Dwyer has during the season so that should drop him down to reserve? Been said several times but Cradley & the NT have little to gain credibility wise as if they win everyone will accuse of cherry picking if they lose (and i personally don't think they will win overall) there will be many chuckling. That said still nice to see them on track. So if Cradley qualify to meet Mildenhall in the final in September and Kemp and Jenkins and both have by then 7 ish averages. Cradley will be able to replace them with riders of that average from just the Southen section teams or the Northen section teams or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete cc Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 If I put my left leg behind my right ear, does that make me flexible or weird? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, pete cc said: If I put my left leg behind my right ear, does that make me flexible or weird? It makes you a cradley fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete cc Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 If you mean I'm an Heathen, then yes, speedway fan, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 15 hours ago, iand said: So if Cradley qualify to meet Mildenhall in the final in September and Kemp and Jenkins and both have by then 7 ish averages. Cradley will be able to replace them with riders of that average from just the Southen section teams or the Northen section teams or both. Gawd knows. the way things are heading they can probably replace them with 7 point championship riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 So easy to criticise the make up of the Heathens' team....The fact is that this is a minor competition that gives fixtures to the clubs that join....more rides for their riders, more meetings for the fans. Does it really matter that the Cradley team is at a slight advantage ? I do not think so and, like others on here, I am very pleased to see Cradley still operating. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathen1984 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Thank you east end fan, at least some1 dont mind us riding. Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ommer Mon Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Perfect summary East End Fan. its all about giving track time to the kids at what always has been a very well run and professional club (and I'm not taking a shot at any other team in saying that). It helps them develop and they will undoubtedly learn a lot from Adam. It also allows us to stay in touch on race nights with many folks who we have met down the years. It's this or nothing for us this year and I'm looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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