ruffdiamond Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Overall some common sense decisions. My only gripe is Tac Sub in Heat 14 and only one rider over 8 point ave in the Premiership. tac sub in ht14 could still help toward a last heat decider,,, I'd take it that the 'only one 8.00 man' is for team-building purposes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduds1 Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) Is the one 8.00 point man per team the excuse for the non appearence of all the world stars, or will Woffinden, Hancock, Pedersen etc be given a sub 8 point average to accommodate the stampede of all these stars breaking their necks to ride in this country. Edited November 20, 2017 by Steve E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 I am pretty happy with that, my team is in the division I have always prefered to watch them in, fixed race nights should help keep teams together and not just seven individuals and the biggest plus of all, getting rid of the tactical ride which has irritated me like a gnat bite ever since there inception. Thank you BSPA, you can and will get my money in 2018 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Appears to be a sensible and reasonably positive outcome, nothing that will attract new fans but maybe make life a bit better for some of the existing ones. On a personal level I am delighted to see the back of the double points nonsense but disappointed there is no fast track type system in the Championship still. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest compost Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 No one has mentioned it yet that I've seen but the bspa website statement so no promotion/relegation next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 No one has mentioned it yet that I've seen but the bspa website statement so no promotion/relegation next year. Good, it was never a runner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 No one has mentioned it yet that I've seen but the bspa website statement so no promotion/relegation next year. I didn't realise that there was any. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER180 Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 THE 8.00 X1 only in the prem is good as will stop to many foreign riders in our leagues give the young brits a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The H Man Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 THE 8.00 X1 only in the prem is good as will stop to many foreign riders in our leagues give the young brits a chance Will it heck as like! All it will do is continue to see up and coming overseas riders being allowed to learn their trade over here before buggering off or we'll see plenty of overseas never will be's in the teams! If they were serious about British riders they'd have given them all a 15/20% average reduction and all they have done is ruled out the majority of the top boys from being allowed to ride the Premiership if they were ever interested in the first place! I'm sure the major brand sponsors (who happily throw money at darts, snooker, rugby and netball) will be falling over themselves to get involved, as will the TV Broadcasters!!! FFS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 The AGM is now finished & some finer details should be forthcoming but as everyone should know, the decisions made are NOT made by the BSPA committee, they just "chair" the meeting. ALL promoters in the PL &CL have a say & a vote with their hand, so if you have a problem, take it up with your promoter. In the SS, it has been stated that they got some things wrong(they do every year) but again, not just the BSPA's fault, but the fault of the promoters voting & decisions made during the season. I mentioned earlier that Mondays & Wednesdays would suit the British Leagues better before knowing who was in the play offs, who could be promoted(farce), who could move between leagues. The only riders affected by this will be the riders who ride in the Danish League who wish to ride in the PL. Some riders, already, have Danish League places. A 42.5 limit across both leagues seems to be what most posters were after. Will there be a conversion factor up/down for riders moving to a league where they did not ride. If a rider rode in both leagues, which average will apply? (I said this last year that if you have a PL average then that should apply in the PL & vica versa for CL. YES, the t/r is abolished & t/s brought in but how many times can it be used? Being able to use it up to & including heat 14 means top riders could influence a late surge to change a result being in heat 13, t/s in heat 14 & nominated in heat 15. (TAKE NOTE ROB ) From a post above, Chris Louis has said no restarts unless tapes touched so ROLLING will be allowed.(start marshals must make sure riders are within 75mm of tapes with front wheel spindle over the 2nd line). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Bear Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 The double ups & guests remain, I will not be following any speedway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 No one has mentioned it yet that I've seen but the bspa website statement so no promotion/relegation next year. Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 I dont like the idea it can now be used again in heat 14. Favours top heavy teams. No1 could be out in all 3 of last 3 heats. If you're using R/R at #3 for your second heat leader you can use your number 1 in heat 11, 12 (R/R), 13, 14(tac sub) and 15! So, you actually want to see tracks close because you don't like the racing there? Someone can support a team for years, allow it to become a large part of their lives but lose it all because someone decides the track's not big enough? I've seen some selfish rubbish on here over the years but this beats all! If you don't like a track don't go - don't deny others that chance just because your preference is different. I do get the feeling some people would be happy to see just a half dozen tracks running - as long as theirs was one of course! Typical speedway. Any speedway is better than no speedway and then wonder why the sport is on it's backside. Any decent business/sport has a degree of quality control. If tracks are not up to standard sort it out or close down. Stop dragging the product down. But speedway loves mediocrity, we'll have mediocre teams competing on mediocre tracks and while we have plenty of young Brits out there we'll let worse than mediocre Aussies have work permits and then be shocked that Australia do better than us in GPs and SWCs in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Not too much change this time around. Most significant for me is the fixed nights. That ends my planned trips to Rye House, Belle Vue and Somerset for next season. I think it will be a Championship year for me, especially with the doubling down making it likely that there will be some good riders on show. Shame they've done nothing about the tail end of Championship teams - last year led to really strung out races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 If you're using R/R at #3 for your second heat leader you can use your number 1 in heat 11, 12 (R/R), 13, 14(tac sub) and 15! Typical speedway. Any speedway is better than no speedway and then wonder why the sport is on it's backside. Any decent business/sport has a degree of quality control. If tracks are not up to standard sort it out or close down. Stop dragging the product down. But speedway loves mediocrity, we'll have mediocre teams competing on mediocre tracks and while we have plenty of young Brits out there we'll let worse than mediocre Aussies have work permits and then be shocked that Australia do better than us in GPs and SWCs in the future. when i watched at Cleveland Park loads of away riders moaned about it being a trick track but i saw amazing races on it and yet went to Halifax and Odsal plenty of times and the passing was at a premium when i was there.- obviously with good meetings too. My dad used to say proper riders can ride Cleveland Park 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) All in all, 'Rearranging Deckchairs' could be the term to summarise the AGM. Edited November 20, 2017 by pugwash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 All in all, 'Rearranging Deckchairs' could be the term to summarise the AGM. But this time they seem to have got them in the right place. Not sure we need to be negative. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 The double ups & guests remain, I will not be following any speedway... But the whole point is with the fixed race nights it will be no different to when riders raced in several different countries, in fact it will be better because they will be able to travel around the UK riding for two clubs without either club being affected by the other unless of course said gets injured, and that could happen anytime. More chance of seeing a settled team next season, than for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The White Knight Posted November 20, 2017 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Copied from the Newcastle 'Diamonds' Thread: You can expect me to return to Brough Park next Season and hopefully Redcar now and again depending on Health and Weather.. Not every week but as often as I can. Whilst I am not thrilled about the Tac. Sub. Rule - I am delighted that the Double Points is consigned to the dustbin of history where it belongs. The BSPA have come part way to satisfying me with their decision on Double Points, and it would be churlish not to acknowledge that by changing my stance. Thanks are due to the BSPA for getting rid of the 'Joker'. I have hammered them with criticism over the years regarding the Tactical Ride Issue - I feel it is only right that I applaud them for their Decision to end it. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 The AGM is now finished & some finer details should be forthcoming but as everyone should know, the decisions made are NOT made by the BSPA committee, they just "chair" the meeting. ALL promoters in the PL &CL have a say & a vote with their hand, so if you have a problem, take it up with your promoter. In the SS, it has been stated that they got some things wrong(they do every year) but again, not just the BSPA's fault, but the fault of the promoters voting & decisions made during the season. I mentioned earlier that Mondays & Wednesdays would suit the British Leagues better before knowing who was in the play offs, who could be promoted(farce), who could move between leagues. The only riders affected by this will be the riders who ride in the Danish League who wish to ride in the PL. Some riders, already, have Danish League places. A 42.5 limit across both leagues seems to be what most posters were after. Will there be a conversion factor up/down for riders moving to a league where they did not ride. If a rider rode in both leagues, which average will apply? (I said this last year that if you have a PL average then that should apply in the PL & vica versa for CL. YES, the t/r is abolished & t/s brought in but how many times can it be used? Being able to use it up to & including heat 14 means top riders could influence a late surge to change a result being in heat 13, t/s in heat 14 & nominated in heat 15. (TAKE NOTE ROB ) From a post above, Chris Louis has said no restarts unless tapes touched so ROLLING will be allowed.(start marshals must make sure riders are within 75mm of tapes with front wheel spindle over the 2nd line). None of the Workington promoters attended due to family commitments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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