PHILIPRISING Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 LOOKS like the BSPA are having their wings clipped by the SCB. Published today... THE Speedway Control Bureau have issued the following statement: A Judicial Inquiry was held in Rugby on Tuesday 7th November 2017 to establish and consider the matter of Mr Ged Rathbone and Mr Rob Godfrey both of the BSPA, in the release of Jack Holder to compete in a Polish League event against the rules of both the Speedway Control Bureau and the International Speedway League Bureau.1) The panel on behalf of the SCB investigated the public statement by Mr Rathbone that Mr Godfrey had advised him to accept a payment for releasing Jack Holder to ride in Poland, when Mr Holder was contracted to ride for Peterborough.The findings of this investigation was no corroborating evidence or witness statements to confirm that this was factual.2) The panel were also requested to investigate if Mr Godfrey advised Mr Rathbone if he released Jack Holder, he should expect to incur a fine from the SCB at a level substantially less than the payment Mr Rathbone received from the Polish Club.The findings of this investigation was that both parties admitted that a discussion regards the level of fine had taken place.The panel was of the opinion that the BSPA has now taken to itself too much power, and considers that the SCB should be the only body to ensure the rules are upheld.Decisions taken in this matter were not in the best interest of the sport.The panel also recommended no further action taken against Mr Rathbone, but the advice given by Mr Godfrey was both ill chosen and in Breach of Speedway Regulation 3.2.7.Mr Godfrey will now be requested to attend a SCB Court Hearing. ENDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 LOOKS like the BSPA are having their wings clipped by the SCB. Published today... THE Speedway Control Bureau have issued the following statement: A Judicial Inquiry was held in Rugby on Tuesday 7th November 2017 to establish and consider the matter of Mr Ged Rathbone and Mr Rob Godfrey both of the BSPA, in the release of Jack Holder to compete in a Polish League event against the rules of both the Speedway Control Bureau and the International Speedway League Bureau. 1) The panel on behalf of the SCB investigated the public statement by Mr Rathbone that Mr Godfrey had advised him to accept a payment for releasing Jack Holder to ride in Poland, when Mr Holder was contracted to ride for Peterborough. The findings of this investigation was no corroborating evidence or witness statements to confirm that this was factual. 2) The panel were also requested to investigate if Mr Godfrey advised Mr Rathbone if he released Jack Holder, he should expect to incur a fine from the SCB at a level substantially less than the payment Mr Rathbone received from the Polish Club. The findings of this investigation was that both parties admitted that a discussion regards the level of fine had taken place. The panel was of the opinion that the BSPA has now taken to itself too much power, and considers that the SCB should be the only body to ensure the rules are upheld. Decisions taken in this matter were not in the best interest of the sport. The panel also recommended no further action taken against Mr Rathbone, but the advice given by Mr Godfrey was both ill chosen and in Breach of Speedway Regulation 3.2.7. Mr Godfrey will now be requested to attend a SCB Court Hearing. ENDS What is needed above all is clarity, we should know exactly what will happen when rules are broken. From what I've read about this particular case, is that both parties weren't clear as to how to proceed, either that or they aren't revealing all the facts. Brown envelopes seem to have added yet another nail to British Speedway's coffin, there is great need for transparency. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post THE DEAN MACHINE Posted November 15, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Polish soeedway has their league structure and rules sorted ,teams are sorted and there is a buzz about who has signed for who , teams have released their new team race suits and new merchandice for fans and pretty much everything is in place for next season , in Britain we have no idea how many leagues or teams or rules ,anything and they are still sqaubling between themselves about who said what to who from this season .,ask people , they really have all but give up on british speedway 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Polish soeedway has their league structure and rules sorted ,teams are sorted and there is a buzz about who has signed for who , teams have released their new team race suits and new merchandice for fans and pretty much everything is in place for next season , in Britain we have no idea how many leagues or teams or rules ,anything and they are still sqaubling between themselves about who said what to who from this season .,ask people , they really have all but give up on british speedway I couldn't disagree with any of that Dean but this whole sorry saga was started by a Polish club using it's financial muscle to do whatever it likes. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Polish soeedway has their league structure and rules sorted ,teams are sorted and there is a buzz about who has signed for who , teams have released their new team race suits and new merchandice for fans and pretty much everything is in place for next season , in Britain we have no idea how many leagues or teams or rules ,anything and they are still sqaubling between themselves about who said what to who from this season .,ask people , they really have all but give up on british speedway Difference Poland finished their season a lot earlier than we did. We were still riding upto the last day of October, when did the Polish Leagues finish ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 I couldn't disagree with any of that Dean but this whole sorry saga was started by a Polish club using it's financial muscle to do whatever it likes. Isn't that what any business would do, I wonder if any promoter would run their own business in the way speedway is run. Difference Poland finished their season a lot earlier than we did. We were still riding upto the last day of October, when did the Polish Leagues finish ? Comes down to better organisation Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 I couldn't disagree with any of that Dean but this whole sorry saga was started by a Polish club using it's financial muscle to do whatever it likes. Thought it was all because one promoter didn't have the plumbs to say no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Thought it was all because one promoter didn't have the plumbs to say no. That as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Difference Poland finished their season a lot earlier than we did. We were still riding upto the last day of October, when did the Polish Leagues finish ? Play-offs 24th September. Promotion/relegation matches 8th October. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 I couldn't disagree with any of that Dean but this whole sorry saga was started by a Polish club using it's financial muscle to do whatever it likes. it takes 2 to tango Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 The statement has disappeared from the bspa website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 it takes 2 to tango Yes but you can't imagine it working the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 The statement has disappeared from the bspa website I noticed that. Could it be some are not happy about the SCB verdict and do not want the BSPA promoting it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 'Self Policing' often means 'No Policing'.... Maybe the SCB will now start to bring integrity and credibility to the Sport rather than stand idly by and watch the BSPA often bring neither...? Let's hope... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) I noticed that. Could it be some are not happy about the SCB verdict and do not want the BSPA promoting it?Well to be fair Jonathan thats a given, now what member of the BSPA MC doesnt like the content of the statement. 'Self Policing' often means 'No Policing'.... Maybe the SCB will now start to bring integrity and credibility to the Sport rather than stand idly by and watch the BSPA often bring neither...? Let's hope... Maybe the SCB now will make its own rules and enforce them correctly and properly instead of letting the BSPA walk all over them. Getting rid of the BSPA members on the SCB would be good starting point. Edited November 15, 2017 by bigcatdiary 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just a press release? Why no press conference, so that any questions that Speedway Star, Sportowefakty or any other journalist may have could have been answered? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) does anybody know who does the speedway gb twitter page ? is it Ryan Guest ? Edited November 15, 2017 by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Polish soeedway has their league structure and rules sorted ,teams are sorted and there is a buzz about who has signed for who , teams have released their new team race suits and new merchandice for fans and pretty much everything is in place for next season , in Britain we have no idea how many leagues or teams or rules ,anything and they are still sqaubling between themselves about who said what to who from this season .,ask people , they really have all but give up on british speedway there's always a mid-season break, why not have the AGM then instead of waiting? few months of the season gone, can see what works and what doesn't, and try to force commitment for the following year so everyone can move forward straight away 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Polish soeedway has their league structure and rules sorted ,teams are sorted and there is a buzz about who has signed for who , teams have released their new team race suits and new merchandice for fans and pretty much everything is in place for next season , in Britain we have no idea how many leagues or teams or rules ,anything and they are still sqaubling between themselves about who said what to who from this season .,ask people , they really have all but give up on british speedway there's always a mid-season break, why not have the AGM then instead of waiting? few months of the season gone, can see what works and what doesn't, and try to force commitment for the following year so everyone can move forward straight away ... and then there was me who thought the reason that many riders signed at the last minute was down to the ne ridicolous demands by Ekstraliga and PZM. And the fact that Ceggy and his Methanol club had practically every rider in uniform against them. All this one week before the highly publicised deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 ... and then there was me who thought the reason that many riders signed at the last minute was down to the ne ridicolous demands by Ekstraliga and PZM. And the fact that Ceggy and his Methanol club had practically every rider in uniform against them. All this one week before the highly publicised deadline. and it was sorted , if this was Britain a meeting would of been scheduled for February Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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