Coventry Bees Nl ?

[adonis]

Just now, iainb said:

I think some people just find what Horton is doing is in bad taste. I don't live in the Cov area so don't know what he's doing to get a return to Cov. Compare with CH and over the years they have been pretty active in trying to secure a return to the Dudley area for their team, has Horton?

I get that , those are in the main the people who are not attending , but as far as I'm aware ,there's only one who  actively tries to thwart Hortons efforts running speedway anywhere , as we have already seen from past experience ,Horton plays his cards pretty close to his chest as regards what goes on in the background , he's not on local radio  every week giving people false hope either ,  personally I don't see speedway ever returning  to Brandon  or the Coventry area , so as long as there are enough people watching at leicester to keep the team running and a few youngsters get a chance to race and get paid  whats the problem 

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48 minutes ago, Woz01 said:

Unfortunately this is what happens when you don't own your own stadium. The 4s wasn't a Bees promotion meeting was it? Electrical work was the reason for the Buxton call off but no idea about this Sunday? Maybe the Monday tv fixture had something to do with it?

Your correct, a relative works for the bt sport set up crew and he said they are working at Leicester over the weekend to get set up for Mondays live meeting. 

[IainB]

11 minutes ago, adonis said:

I get that , those are in the main the people who are not attending , but as far as I'm aware ,there's only one who  actively tries to thwart Hortons efforts running speedway anywhere , as we have already seen from past experience ,Horton plays his cards pretty close to his chest as regards what goes on in the background , he's not on local radio  every week giving people false hope either ,  personally I don't see speedway ever returning  to Brandon  or the Coventry area , so as long as there are enough people watching at leicester to keep the team running and a few youngsters get a chance to race and get paid  whats the problem 

The problem is that it's called Coventry... which is an insult to many. Why not call it Beaumont Bees?

[Dave Jones]

28 minutes ago, adonis said:

it's the only thing that's anything like Cov at the moment .  those who are not interested  have voted with their feet , simple if you don' want to watch what is on offer don't , that doesn't mean you should go on a crusade to try and prevent anybody else watching them . and it doesn't mean you should tirelessly try to undermine  Hortons efforts to keep the name alive and a team running , take a look back through this thread and read some of his posts , you wont find anything to do with Coventry Bees ,

I'm not trying to prevent anyone going to Leicester if that's what they enjoy, I'm just commenting on things as I see them.

IMO Mick Horton is a blight on the history of the club, his time at Brandon was the worst few years I've experienced supporting the Bees. He exploited his fan base, and told us so many lies which was totally alien to the way the club had been run for so many years. ( you can no doubt see that for me it isn't just about putting 7 guys on track and expecting  folk just to turn up, it's about how the club is run too.)

I don't see that anything that happens at Leicester has any connection with the bees whatsoever, it's just a guy using the name in an attempt to create some credibility. Unfortunately most of that was lost between 2012 and 2016, hence the fact that I don't comment on the team.

Horton has loads of "previous" when it comes to wrecking clubs and as far as I'm concerned anyone who trusts him is indeed a very brave person.

 

[adonis]

1 hour ago, Dave Jones said:

I'm not trying to prevent anyone going to Leicester if that's what they enjoy, I'm just commenting on things as I see them.

IMO Mick Horton is a blight on the history of the club, his time at Brandon was the worst few years I've experienced supporting the Bees. He exploited his fan base, and told us so many lies which was totally alien to the way the club had been run for so many years. ( you can no doubt see that for me it isn't just about putting 7 guys on track and expecting  folk just to turn up, it's about how the club is run too.)

I don't see that anything that happens at Leicester has any connection with the bees whatsoever, it's just a guy using the name in an attempt to create some credibility. Unfortunately most of that was lost between 2012 and 2016, hence the fact that I don't comment on the team.

Horton has loads of "previous" when it comes to wrecking clubs and as far as I'm concerned anyone who trusts him is indeed a very brave person.

 

 Ok   I'm most likely going to regret this and wind up getting banned  but  lets hear it , actual facts ( provable because I don't do  listening to what  you or anybody believes is a fact  )lets have all this "previous  "  layed out for all to see .   On you go !!! 

[adonis]

1 hour ago, iainb said:

The problem is that it's called Coventry... which is an insult to many. Why not call it Beaumont Bees?

right so  teams that no longer have a home where they originated  must use another name  , lets ask WOZ 01  who is as regular at BP  as his work will allow whtehr he thinks he's watching Coventry Bees  or  beaumont bees 

 

[Woz01]

13 minutes ago, adonis said:

right so  teams that no longer have a home where they originated  must use another name  , lets ask WOZ 01  who is as regular at BP  as his work will allow whtehr he thinks he's watching Coventry Bees  or  beaumont bees 

 

Of course its Coventry Bees. It's not where we want to be (League and track) and its far from ideal but for me I'll follow the team through thick and thin. If other don't want to call the club Coventry Bees anymore that's upto them but I cannot agree with that.

The track day on Saturday has also called off to allow sky set up for Monday's meeting. 

Bees v Buxton the following Sunday also call off as the World Cup Final is at 4pm the same day.

Edited July 5, 2018 by Woz01

[TesarRacing]

14 minutes ago, Woz01 said:

Of course its Coventry Bees. It's not where we want to be (League and track) and its far from ideal but for me I'll follow the team through thick and thin. If other don't want to call the club Coventry Bees anymore that's upto them but I cannot agree with that.

The track day on Saturday has also called off to allow sky set up for Monday's meeting. 

Bees v Buxton the following Sunday also call off as the World Cup Final is at 4pm the same day.

Conspiracy theory over!!! 

[IainB]

46 minutes ago, adonis said:

right so  teams that no longer have a home where they originated  must use another name  , lets ask WOZ 01  who is as regular at BP  as his work will allow whtehr he thinks he's watching Coventry Bees  or  beaumont bees 

 

Don't think I said "must"

32 minutes ago, Woz01 said:

Of course its Coventry Bees. It's not where we want to be (League and track) and its far from ideal but for me I'll follow the team through thick and thin. If other don't want to call the club Coventry Bees anymore that's upto them but I cannot agree with that.

I'd be interested to know why you think it's Coventry Bees (other than in name only) and how you're identifying with them

[Dave Jones]

1 hour ago, adonis said:

 Ok   I'm most likely going to regret this and wind up getting banned  but  lets hear it , actual facts ( provable because I don't do  listening to what  you or anybody believes is a fact  )lets have all this "previous  "  layed out for all to see .   On you go !!! 

A silly request, as you probably already realise.

Everyone knows that in speedway there are no facts as far as the ordinary fan is concerned, everything is covered in secrecy and dealt with " in house". We are reluctantly  told what "we need to know"

All we can go on is what we see with our own eyes and  the bits and pieces gleaned from the various press comments . I think Mr Frost made a few strong comments about Horton after his last attempt at running Peterborough, and the cost to himself in rectifying that situation.

Anyhow I find it interesting that you chose not to address any of the other comments in my last post, i can't for one second  believe you accept my view. Of course if, as I suspect, you have some association with Mick Horton then that would explain so much.

 

[adonis]

29 minutes ago, Dave Jones said:

A silly request, as you probably already realise.

Everyone knows that in speedway there are no facts as far as the ordinary fan is concerned, everything is covered in secrecy and dealt with " in house". We are reluctantly  told what "we need to know"

All we can go on is what we see with our own eyes and  the bits and pieces gleaned from the various press comments . I think Mr Frost made a few strong comments about Horton after his last attempt at running Peterborough, and the cost to himself in rectifying that situation.

Anyhow I find it interesting that you chose not to address any of the other comments in my last post, i can't for one second  believe you accept my view. Of course if, as I suspect, you have some association with Mick Horton then that would explain so much.

 

No surprises here then ,  you can't even come up with one thing  ,that was your opportunity to  give yourself at least a little credibility and you have thrown it away , 

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21 minutes ago, adonis said:

No surprises here then ,  you can't even come up with one thing  ,that was your opportunity to  give yourself at least a little credibility and you have thrown it away , 

So Dave Jones finally admits he goes off what he sees and press releases etc to gather his facts and a bit of hearsay thrown in for good measure - of course if ,as I suspect ,you have some association with the save Coventry speedway campaign  then that would explain so much ☺

Edited July 5, 2018 by Smoggy45
Missed a word

[Dave Jones]

2 minutes ago, Smoggy45 said:

So Dave Jones finally admits he goes off what he sees and press releases etc to gather his facts and a bit of hearsay thrown in for good measure - if as I suspect you have somever with the save Coventry speedway then that would explain so much ☺associated

None whatsoever, but your comment does say much more about your purpose on this forum.

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6 minutes ago, Dave Jones said:

None whatsoever, but your comment does say much more about your purpose on this forum.

Go on then , what ? 

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1 minute ago, Smoggy45 said:

Go on then , what ? 

Hey dave here's one fact to put in your facts file - save Coventry speedway has done nothing to save Coventry speedway. Fact.

[Dave Jones]

6 minutes ago, Smoggy45 said:

Go on then , what ? 

Too subtle for you?

4 minutes ago, Smoggy45 said:

Hey dave here's one fact to put in your facts file - save Coventry speedway has done nothing to save Coventry speedway. Fact.

Are you and Adonis the same person by any chance? If not it seems we have two "plants" on here defending Horton.

Once all this is concluded and the operation at Leicester closes , as it surely will, i expect you two will just disappear into the ether. As is the norm.

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21 minutes ago, Dave Jones said:

Too subtle for you?

Are you and Adonis the same person by any chance? If not it seems we have two "plants" on here defending Horton.

Once all this is concluded and the operation at Leicester closes , as it surely will, i expect you two will just disappear into the ether. As is the norm.

The only plant on here is you mushroom.  Yea we'll see if you get your wish - like I say you're the worst supporter a team could hope to have . 

[adonis]

Just now, Smoggy45 said:

The only plant on here is you mushroom.  Yea we'll see if you get your wish - like I say you're the worst supporter a team could hope to have . 

I'm a part of a sleeper cell  , Placed here by Horton  in 2008 , 4 years before he took over at Coventry . 

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27 minutes ago, Smoggy45 said:

The only plant on here is you mushroom.  Yea we'll see if you get your wish - like I say you're the worst supporter a team could hope to have . 

The operation will close at Leicester as it's on a years lease 

[adonis]

2 hours ago, iainb said:

Don't think I said "must"

I'd be interested to know why you think it's Coventry Bees (other than in name only) and how you're identifying with them

do we need  to start calling Cradley,   Wolverhampton   Heathens then  ?