Jacques Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, oleoleole said: Is there anyway you can see this if you are not on Facebook ? He says it's public, but if you can't see it, he'll upload it to youtube later this evening Edited March 7, 2018 by Jacques Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleoleole Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 30 minutes ago, Jacques said: He says it's public, but if you can't see it, he'll upload it to youtube later this evening That would be great. I just get a Facebook page saying , "You must log-in to continue". Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jacques said: Of course said it, because he knows they won't do it! All big and clever being brave, when you know you won't be challenged! He was challenged at the NSSC when he personally asked to talk. He's been to forums where the other have been invited but theyve not shown up, Mick has. Why not show up if they've got nothing to hide? Look I'm not defending Mick as I think he should've handled it all a lot better and couldve possibly done more (the question about that at the top of the broadcast was from me). Others involved are seemingly getting away with it as they refuse to talk to fans, I find it bizarre. Who introduced Brandon Estates to Natwest? Why wasn't it an open sale so speedway and/or stox people could bid? What happened to the long lease announced in 2013? Was there even one? Why do Brandon Estates and Sandhu not get on? All of this has been in action before any of us knew it was even happening. Edited March 7, 2018 by Woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 I fully understand the emotive issues surrounding the Bees and the stadium issues however the new season is fast approaching and perhaps it is time to look to the coming season and start talking about the current Bees team who may be the Bees team which gives us a future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedwayTShirts Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 YouTube link to the interview is here folks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hfKqiAIbEQ&feature=youtu.be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry_Bee Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) The people who I trust here are the people trying to save the stadium and that is Jeff and David. Yes Mick did attend a NSSC meeting and fair play for doing so, however at the meeting a few days before the rug was pulled under us I am sure he said mistakes had been made and he understood our frustration etc. Some 12 months later and the same tune is being whistled, where had he been all winter and if financially he is backing this venture that is a very big risk to take as what research had been done regarding fans actually wanting a team and going to Leicester? 12 months ago we were not in a financial position to be able to complete the campaign in the view of the BSPA, what's changed in regard to this as if no fans turn up then there will be incomplete fixtures? His remarks about keeping it professional regarding criticism from ex employees such as Bomber, Colin Pratt etc. I don't think they have said anything yet that has been ultra damaging and they are both highly regarded and respected in the speedway world. Respect and loyalty is earned and I don't think that's really sunk in with the current promotion. It does seem you are in a Sandhu corner or a Horton corner. Both parties failed us to a point, my only question regarding Sandhu is the banks didn't just say sell tomorrow ! he had time to maybe sell to somebody who would keep the stadium the way it was being run. However I trust him a whole lot more and on the whole 90% of us would think the same. As in the podcast Mick correctly states that he owns the Bees and would be selective to who he would sell too? That opens up more questions as to if Sandhu would even be an option if a new site was to be built on as they would have to work together, Sandhu has capital and the stox rights, once this is all sorted Mick will have no assets just the rights to run a speedway team. Edited March 8, 2018 by Coventry_Bee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted March 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 55 minutes ago, Coventry_Bee said: The people who I trust here are the people trying to save the stadium and that is Jeff and David. Yes Mick did attend a NSSC meeting and fair play for doing so, however at the meeting a few days before the rug was pulled under us I am sure he said mistakes had been made and he understood our frustration etc. Some 12 months later and the same tune is being whistled, where had he been all winter and if financially he is backing this venture that is a very big risk to take as what research had been done regarding fans actually wanting a team and going to Leicester? 12 months ago we were not in a financial position to be able to complete the campaign in the view of the BSPA, what's changed in regard to this as if no fans turn up then there will be incomplete fixtures? His remarks about keeping it professional regarding criticism from ex employees such as Bomber, Colin Pratt etc. I don't think they have said anything yet that has been ultra damaging and they are both highly regarded and respected in the speedway world. Respect and loyalty is earned and I don't think that's really sunk in with the current promotion. It does seem you are in a Sandhu corner or a Horton corner. Both parties failed us to a point, my only question regarding Sandhu is the banks didn't just say sell tomorrow ! he had time to maybe sell to somebody who would keep the stadium the way it was being run. However I trust him a whole lot more and on the whole 90% of us would think the same. As in the podcast Mick correctly states that he owns the Bees and would be selective to who he would sell too? That opens up more questions as to if Sandhu would even be an option if a new site was to be built on as they would have to work together, Sandhu has capital and the stox rights, once this is all sorted Mick will have no assets just the rights to run a speedway team. Is that the same dodgy sandhu that's was involved with the money launderer and who only owned half of the stadium after HMRC retained the stadium until his partner paid £2,000'000 back http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-20308824?SThisFB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) oops Edited March 9, 2018 by uk_martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naffer Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 After listening to the Facebook chat, which is well worth a listen, I still can’t understand the disconnect between the current promotion and the campaign group.Horton says he wants to cooperate with them ,must be a reason they don’t want him on board. i don’t trust Sandhu either he has obviously contributed to this mess. going forward we just have to hope Rugby BC reject the application and the subsequent appeals which will no doubt follow and drag it out for several years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 hours ago, naffer said: After listening to the Facebook chat, which is well worth a listen, I still can’t understand the disconnect between the current promotion and the campaign group.Horton says he wants to cooperate with them ,must be a reason they don’t want him on board. i don’t trust Sandhu either he has obviously contributed to this mess. going forward we just have to hope Rugby BC reject the application and the subsequent appeals which will no doubt follow and drag it out for several years. This is frustrating for me, whether we like It or not Horton is owner of Coventry Speedway and the group and Horton need to work together. Both Horton and the SCS say we need to look forward let's do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 21 hours ago, mac101 said: Is that the same dodgy sandhu that's was involved with the money launderer and who only owned half of the stadium after HMRC retained the stadium until his partner paid £2,000'000 back http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-20308824?SThisFB Where does that article, or any other in fact, say Sandhu was involved in money laundering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterPlinge Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, SCB said: Where does that article, or any other in fact, say Sandhu was involved in money laundering? Where does the previous poster accuse Sandhu of money laundering? He says Sandhu was involved with a money launderer. That is quite true. The Jatinder Singh Batth quoted in the article was a convicted money launderer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post david_rowe Posted March 9, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 hours ago, adonis said: I think it's better as it is TBH , after all the trouble the group has caused , each side has it's own ideas on the way forward ( the group still favour Sandhu despite the evidence that it's mainly his fault ) and who needs a load of infighting and ego's pulling the whole thing down , If Brandon estates suss their allegiance to Sandhu , that will be another thing that will keep BE away from any negotiations The campaign group has no allegiance to anyone, and any evidence of “all the trouble the group has caused” would be welcomed. If I in any way felt that what was being done was not being done in a professional or respectful way I wouldn’t be putting my name to it as one of those involved - especially as I am quite openly involved in various ways across the sport. You’re welcome to come to a campaign group meeting, you might learn something - but I guess then we might also learn your identity, which presumably you don’t want to happen. 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, david_rowe said: The campaign group has no allegiance to anyone, and any evidence of “all the trouble the group has caused” would be welcomed. If I in any way felt that what was being done was not being done in a professional or respectful way I wouldn’t be putting my name to it as one of those involved - especially as I am quite openly involved in various ways across the sport. You’re welcome to come to a campaign group meeting, you might learn something - but I guess then we might also learn your identity, which presumably you don’t want to happen. Well said Dave. Keep up the good work, you`re doing a great job. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 As Jeff Davies said on a Facebook post the fight is with Brandon Estates what's happened in the past is done and we can't change that. We are all passionate and sometimes go overboard but Brandon Estates wants this infighting. I myself am very guilty of this at times. Do what you want to do go to Leicester or not but the fight should really be against Brandon Estates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 6 hours ago, adonis said: I think it's better as it is TBH , after all the trouble the group has caused , each side has it's own ideas on the way forward ( the group still favour Sandhu despite the evidence that it's mainly his fault ) and who needs a load of infighting and ego's pulling the whole thing down , If Brandon estates suss their allegiance to Sandhu , that will be another thing that will keep BE away from any negotiations So, what trouble has the group caused? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double_O Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 3 hours ago, adonis said: apart from the rift created between the bees supporters , do you mean , and the attempts to make the NL venture fail , not a lot I suppose , of course it 's fine for them to to continually berate Hortons efforts to keep the name alive , but woe betide anyone who thinks the move to Leicester is the best that can be hoped for ,if you wish to see any sort of Bees team race . You surely have to be closely related to Horton to spout the continual bile and lies on here in support of Horton. The only fact on here is the vast majority of Bees supporters do not rightly so trust Horton and will not be giving him any of their money. Whatever the consequences then so be it but he is the kind of person Brandon Estates need to drag us to oblivion and they will succeed. Jeff and David have always shown passion and integrity to save Coventry stadium and the Bees, all of this is alien to Horton. However you just keep showing your support for that perpetual liar and loser. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) The SCS group have said continually that if you want to go to Leicester then go as they don't see it will have an effect on what they are trying to do. Jeff expressed an opinion that he thinks the team at Leicester isnt Coventry Bees as we are at NL level, he hasn't said to fans don't go. I do differ from his opinion on this, Coventry Bees shouldnt be at NL level but unfortunately we are, a league doesn't define what a club is. I say again the fight is to Brandon Estates now. Edited March 10, 2018 by Woz01 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, adonis said: apart from the rift created between the bees supporters , do you mean , and the attempts to make the NL venture fail , not a lot I suppose , of course it 's fine for them to to continually berate Hortons efforts to keep the name alive , but woe betide anyone who thinks the move to Leicester is the best that can be hoped for ,if you wish to see any sort of Bees team race . Brandon Estates have caused the rift, they are the reason we are in this position going into the 2018 season. Now about the team! Good to see Danny Phillips getting a championship place at Scunthorpe. Edited March 10, 2018 by Woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Adonis sounds like the exiled Speedibee with his obsession with Sandhu? Yet he call's me sad It would be hilarious if Mr Geary has indeed popped back up with the forum name Adonis, cos Adonis he ain't 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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