Crump99 Posted January 11, 2018 Report Share Posted January 11, 2018 5 hours ago, IronScorpion said: He gave an opinion based on the rules which are made by the SCB not BSPA. Since when has there NOT been grey areas in the rules. Yourselves & Newcastle did not send your top 4 by averages which is the main point in your declared team. The SCB didn't say that it was an opinion: "The panel also recommended no further action taken against Mr Rathbone, but the advice given by Mr Godfrey was both ill chosen and in Breach of Speedway Regulation 3.2.7." Rathbone asked for advice from a senior BSPA official regarding speedway's rules, so to plead ignorance when the brown stuff hits the fan because technically they are not our rules really is clutching at straws. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Crump99 said: The SCB didn't say that it was an opinion: "The panel also recommended no further action taken against Mr Rathbone, but the advice given by Mr Godfrey was both ill chosen and in Breach of Speedway Regulation 3.2.7." Rathbone asked for advice from a senior BSPA official regarding speedway's rules, so to plead ignorance when the brown stuff hits the fan because technically they are not our rules really is clutching at straws. Are you on a wind up or something? you're trying to vindicate the guy who did wrong by saying he was given incorrct advice but your ignoring the fact thet Rathbone wanted to do something dodgy and in fact did it. The advise was ill advised for sure but Rathbone was the main culprit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Lewis said: Are you on a wind up or something? you're trying to vindicate the guy who did wrong by saying he was given incorrct advice but your ignoring the fact thet Rathbone wanted to do something dodgy and in fact did it. The advise was ill advised for sure but Rathbone was the main culprit. He was rightly punished for it at the end of the day no thanks to the BSPA who thought if they punished him hard enough with a massive out of all proportion fine they could get rid of him altogether and then stick there own puppet in to promote at the showground . luckily Ged got some good legal advice and was able to put his case to the ACU who overturned the £ 28,000 fine to a realistic and sensible £3,000. Yes he did wrong and i'm not proud of him for doing it .Yet the vice chairman has been vindicated by BSPA pals in the best interests of British speedway for giving misleading advice. Edited January 12, 2018 by New era Panthers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 Godfrey should have stood down, having brought the sport into disrepute ( by the standards of other sports ). But in speedway, no, you are a True Blazer Gent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Lewis said: Are you on a wind up or something? you're trying to vindicate the guy who did wrong by saying he was given incorrct advice but your ignoring the fact thet Rathbone wanted to do something dodgy and in fact did it. The advise was ill advised for sure but Rathbone was the main culprit. I tend to wind people up but not on a wind up no. I've said before that if Rathbone did receive a phone call from Poland and told them that we can't speak to you then that's where it should have stopped. The fact is that he asked for and was allegedly advised that the benefit of doing something "dodgy" outweighed the slap on the wrist that he might get so it was worth the risk. The action does still make Rathbone the main culprit (and he was punished for it) but what would you have done? You have bills to pay and a high ranking official advises that you'll make more than you'll lose from the deal whilst getting minor grief from the powers that be for transgressing the rules. Edited January 12, 2018 by Crump99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, Crump99 said: I tend to wind people up but not on a wind up no. I've said before that if Rathbone did receive a phone call from Poland and told them that we can't speak to you then that's where it should have stopped. The fact is that he asked for and was allegedly advised that the benefit of doing something "dodgy" outweighed the slap on the wrist that he might get so it was worth the risk. The action does still makes Rathbone the main culprit (and he was punished for it) but what would you have done? You have bills to pay and a high ranking official advises that you'll make more than you'll lose from the deal whilst getting minor grief from the powers that be for transgressing the rules. And of course following Chapmans utter condemnation of his actions Rathbone then committed an even worse sin in the eyes of the BSPA MC by winning the Fours without Jack Holder, what a kick in the nether regions that was. I am just pleased that the ACU saw through the BSPA MC and the SCB and reacted accordingly, it just remains to be seen what happens now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted January 12, 2018 Report Share Posted January 12, 2018 12 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: And of course following Chapmans utter condemnation of his actions Rathbone then committed an even worse sin in the eyes of the BSPA MC by winning the Fours without Jack Holder, what a kick in the nether regions that was. I am just pleased that the ACU saw through the BSPA MC and the SCB and reacted accordingly, it just remains to be seen what happens now. It would be nice if the real villain of this got some punishment tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 14 hours ago, Badge said: It would be nice if the real villain of this got some punishment tbh He won't get punished though. There was only one person Chapman wanted to punish as he had already stated before a date was set for the BSPA /SCB hearing that he would come down heavily on Rathbone as he was absolutely furious with what had happened . Then to chair the actual meeting with such a biased attitude was totally out of order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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