BenR195 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 On 12/18/2017 at 10:58 AM, Rayleigh said: That's rather harsh, as I recall he was rider of the year last time and on many occasions held things together. He also wanted to stay but Newcastle ordered him back. Signing Kus would be a big + Expand Kus wanted a transfer away from us to Newcastle because havvy wouldn’t allow him to stay at Berwick and made him sign for us where he rode poor for half a season to push through a move which he eventually got after it went to arbitration, he isn’t the rider he used to be anymore, because of injuries and personal problems, certainly not a number 5 which is what we need so I wouldn’t have him back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 On 12/18/2017 at 11:43 AM, BenR195 said: Kus wanted a transfer away from us to Newcastle because havvy wouldn’t allow him to stay at Berwick and made him sign for us where he rode poor for half a season to push through a move which he eventually got after it went to arbitration, he isn’t the rider he used to be anymore, because of injuries and personal problems, certainly not a number 5 which is what we need so I wouldn’t have him back Expand Don't believe what you hear, he wanted to stay at Redcar but was instructed by Newcastle to ride for them . He has now had his operation and if fit are raring to go for whoever he signs for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erimus11 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 On 12/18/2017 at 11:57 AM, Rayleigh said: Don't believe what you hear, he wanted to stay at Redcar but was instructed by Newcastle to ride for them . He has now had his operation and if fit are raring to go for whoever he signs for. Expand IMO Kus will be back in in our squad for the coming season , regardless of what did /didn't/ may have happened...etc etc (delete as appropriate) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leander Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 On 12/18/2017 at 11:57 AM, Rayleigh said: Don't believe what you hear, he wanted to stay at Redcar but was instructed by Newcastle to ride for them . He has now had his operation and if fit are raring to go for whoever he signs for. Expand How could a Redcar asset (as he was at the time) be instructed by another team to ride for them. A team who didn't ( then) own him?? Newcastle wanted to sign him on loan originally but were forced to buy him in order to use him. Sorry but your first sentence doesn't make any logical sense, especially since Redcar wanted to use him that year. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 As said above, Newcastle didn’t instruct Kus to ride for them, we owned kus’ contract, he had agreed a deal with us in 2016, but Newcastle came in with more money and Kus demanded a transfer, havvy said they would have to buy him, it went to arbitration and they bought him, now he wants to come back because Newcastle ain’t using him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 I think the key factor to remember is that this is a "different" redcar to the one Kus wanted away from, I think he is very likely to be back and with a positive attitude, the right promotional and team management behind him he will do a good job. we all want better, but at times you have to take a) what you can afford and b ) what is available - applies to life in general 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 On 12/18/2017 at 2:10 PM, northyorksbear said: I think the key factor to remember is that this is a "different" redcar to the one Kus wanted away from, I think he is very likely to be back and with a positive attitude, the right promotional and team management behind him he will do a good job. we all want better, but at times you have to take a) what you can afford and b ) what is available - applies to life in general Expand You're probably right, it looks like we're back to the factory floor sweepings days of BH. Who next, Konopka? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northyorksbear Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 Don't be too down, it's Christmas and I hear Kev & Jitendra have some good pressies for us! (defo NOT konopka!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 We had some good riders last year, it seems that with the exception of Ben they've all gone elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer09 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 On 12/18/2017 at 11:43 AM, BenR195 said: Kus wanted a transfer away from us to Newcastle because havvy wouldn’t allow him to stay at Berwick and made him sign for us where he rode poor for half a season to push through a move which he eventually got after it went to arbitration, he isn’t the rider he used to be anymore, because of injuries and personal problems, certainly not a number 5 which is what we need so I wouldn’t have him back Expand What a load of s#%te. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) On 12/18/2017 at 4:56 PM, Shearer09 said: What a load of s#%te. Expand Which part? Was Kus forced to ride at redcar by Havvy for a year, when he really wanted to be at Berwick again? Yes. Did Kus ask for a transfer? Yes. Did he get end up getting transferred to Newcastle after it went to arbitration? Yes. Is he the same rider as the one redcar first signed? No. As proved by his spell at reserve for Berwick and the fact newcastle didnt use him Is he a good quality number 5. No. If you think so why haven’t your team used him? You say it’s a load of s#%te but what part don’t you agree with? Kus is a nice lad but sadly redcar need someone better/more consistent since Charles has left Edited December 18, 2017 by BenR195 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer09 Posted December 18, 2017 Report Share Posted December 18, 2017 On 12/18/2017 at 6:09 PM, BenR195 said: Which part? Was Kus forced to ride at redcar by Havvy for a year, when he really wanted to be at Berwick again? Yes. Did Kus ask for a transfer? Yes. Did he get end up getting transferred to Newcastle after it went to arbitration? Yes. Is he the same rider as the one redcar first signed? No. As proved by his spell at reserve for Berwick and the fact newcastle didnt use him Is he a good quality number 5. No. If you think so why haven’t your team used him? You say it’s a load of s#%te but what part don’t you agree with? Kus is a nice lad but sadly redcar need someone better/more consistent since Charles has left Expand I was on about the personal problems and fitness bit pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 On 12/18/2017 at 10:56 PM, Shearer09 said: I was on about the personal problems and fitness bit pal. Expand His best mate died on track, and it hit him hard, which is understandable but for a while he went through a stage where if he gated he would do well, but if he never he’d struggle because he’d shut the throttle off if someone came near him, and I know he was troubled with injuries last season, like I’ve said, nice lad but redcar need someone more consistent at number 5, and the options are running out, can only really see Proctor, TJ and Kus that I can see us going for and Proctor would be my first choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) On 12/19/2017 at 12:01 AM, BenR195 said: His best mate died on track, and it hit him hard, which is understandable but for a while he went through a stage where if he gated he would do well, but if he never he’d struggle because he’d shut the throttle off if someone came near him, and I know he was troubled with injuries last season, like I’ve said, nice lad but redcar need someone more consistent at number 5, and the options are running out, can only really see Proctor, TJ and Kus that I can see us going for and Proctor would be my first choice Expand Don't see Proctor back with Bears, and TJ is not destined for a Championship team, so that leaves you with .....??? (edited to get the right number of ? in place!!) Edited December 19, 2017 by Mad Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 ty cant ride for 2 teams in the same league , it has not been sorted by the powers that be . YET . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 11:37 AM, jenga said: ty cant ride for 2 teams in the same league , it has not been sorted by the powers that be . YET . Expand Can’t see him back at Workington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 On 12/18/2017 at 6:09 PM, BenR195 said: Which part? Was Kus forced to ride at redcar by Havvy for a year, when he really wanted to be at Berwick again? Yes. Did Kus ask for a transfer? Yes. Did he get end up getting transferred to Newcastle after it went to arbitration? Yes. Is he the same rider as the one redcar first signed? No. As proved by his spell at reserve for Berwick and the fact newcastle didnt use him Is he a good quality number 5. No. If you think so why haven’t your team used him? You say it’s a load of s#%te but what part don’t you agree with? Kus is a nice lad but sadly redcar need someone better/more consistent since Charles has left Expand Kus came to Berwick spent some of the season in the reserve berth but finished the season as our Number 1. There was a lot of talk about how Redcar wanted silly money for him so he could stay at Berwick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 1:31 PM, NORMSKI58 said: Kus came to Berwick spent some of the season in the reserve berth but finished the season as our Number 1. There was a lot of talk about how Redcar wanted silly money for him so he could stay at Berwick. Expand Yes Havvy was asking for Silly money and then Newcastle took it to arbitration and bought him cheaper, and that is my point drops to reserve then ends up at number 1, not exactly consistent is he, redcar can’t afford to have him as a number 5 is the point I’m making 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekycobra Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 Most seem certain that JBA's brother will be joining the Bears, but on what average. I thought it would be 7.00, but a few new Swede's/Danes are been signed up on a 5ish for other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 2:09 PM, cheekycobra said: Most seem certain that JBA's brother will be joining the Bears, but on what average. I thought it would be 7.00, but a few new Swede's/Danes are been signed up on a 5ish for other teams. Expand I think it depends on what levels they've reached elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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