Workington 2018 .

[TotallyHonestJohn]

On 10/6/2018 at 10:22 AM, WorkyWorky said:

Please do your research before commenting on what does/does not happen at Workington. You clearly do not know much about the current promotion, or the efforts in place to help out this club. Yes there is a trust. No, THJ is not Hoggy. Laura has been nothing but brilliant for Workington Speedway, and has lived every fans dream of owning and running a club, although it has landed her in what is now a difficult place. 

This sport is dying, with every attempt made to revive it, actually losing more and more fans. Glasgow have been in our shoes before but no sympathy given. All jokes aside, you can do all the promoting you like up there, but it will be a miserable day when you have no teams left to race against. 

Enjoy it while it lasts, maybe on a different thread that involves your own club? 

Oh and a big congrats to the mighty monarchs. 

Hahaha

No Hoggy is the LFY (Little Fat Yorkshireman) I'm more the BFG (Big Fat Geordie)

But Hoggy will always tell you how it is; quite honestly and forthright; and has more knowledge than most with regard to the finer points of Speedway and its promotion or lack of, not only does he have quite forthright views some of them are good ideas as well!!! He is approachable and will talk to anyone (and if you buy him a pint you will have his ear for at least oh 5 or 6 minutes) (but don't expect one back!!! Like the Scottish the kindly Yorkshire folk are not renown for splashing the cash)

Regards
THJ

[jenga]

Jseezw . you are  one mean parent chucker . 

Edited October 8, 2018 by jenga

[SharpenRake]

7 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Honestly

You haven't got a clue pal, come and look me up when you come down and I will put you in the picture, and as the Workington Trust facilitator I have the ideas just not the disposable cash to put them into action, (and I am not short of a bob or two) however, you may know some of the ideas like spending £200k+ on advertisement of the sport to put an additional 64/66 on the crowd, so even if we call it 70 who then spend £25 each on a match day that's £35,000 back in the coffers over the season for a £200K expenditure, so yep that makes good business sense doesn't it? and I wont go down the salary root as that just makes a mockery of the sport when a guy makes more riding in Scotland for a championship club than Poland, or a 3 point reserve gets a better deal than other clubs No 1? so yes make no bones about it  "Bank Rolling the club", (which is exactly what is happening) and that is only bad when its to the detriment of all others isn't it. (which is also exactly what is happening) I also wont go down the route of commenting on "the infrastructure" that now sees Stewart Dickson as a co-promoter at Leicester and what went on there, but they obviously went to the Mike Ashley School of Business, a case of "I'm all right Jack" "fox you"

Further and for the record I am not sure anyone from the Workington promotion called anyone a "Bar Steward" and they certainly haven't upset the BSPA as far as I am aware and you have answered your own question you clown "Laura and her partners pour money (that she (nor they) can probably ill afford) down the drain that is Workington speedway." This is due to the fact that they do not have the disposable cash to "Bank Roll" the club, its got feck all to do with being good at business Speedway as a business is virtually redundant and as countless people on here have pointed out. "unless there are changes there will be more casualties than Worky " Honest

Having the disposable cash to "Pish it up agin a wall" and not give a "rats ass" on what you spend; and not care whether the business is profitable or not is one thing' and good luck if you can afford to do this; however trying to run a business model where there is a culture of being shafted by your fellow competitors (not wanting to come on originally agreed dates for a start) on a reducing turnover with increasing costs is another. Oh and here's a thought; the Newcastle promotion got a parliamentary group set up for Speedway for continuous promotion of the sport at a national level so "Eggheads" is right up there with that like eh" so a can see where you are coming from!!!. I remember when a team from Carrillion were on there and look what happened to them!!! Dickheads more like; Honestly you have a cheek calling the Edinburgh lot "Smug" and to have a pop at Jenga and TaylorJ about their support of their chosen club (and I agree they can be somewhat embarrassing at times)  but this when the "Tiggs" have some of the most vociferous know nothing "Dickheads" imaginable on here is also a bit rich.

The offer is there come and see me before the Play off meeting at DP and I will get the beers and bites in (you can try the food at DP and post from experience for a change) or if you don't drink I can supply plenty of tea and coffee (Sorry we don't do Bucky unfortunately) but I can even supply a nice Malt, but this will be from the east coast which will probably prejudice you against drinking it. However we will depart as friends and you may learn a few home  truths that open your eyes not only about our sport but about your beloved promotion that you are so "sook" about.

Ask the lasses in the Programme or the 50/50 Draw Ticket Booths and they will point me out, look forward to meeting up with your good self; oh and if you go to the doctors and get a prescription for some "ursodeoxycholic acid" or ask for a "proton pump inhibitor" I think you will find it most beneficial

Regards
THJ

In the interests of harmony I'm out of here. Thanks for calling some of us Dick heads its really appreciated especially coming from someone with such mastery of the English language and worth a few bob - give my regards to steve.

Edited October 8, 2018 by SharpenRake

[TotallyHonestJohn]

12 hours ago, SharpenRake said:

In the interests of harmony I'm out of here. Thanks for calling some of us Dick heads its really appreciated especially coming from someone with such mastery of the English language and worth a few bob - give my regards to Steve.

Honestly

Pleased I could find words that you could comprehend, understand and finally reached your level as some of the more subtle more well chosen jibes obviously went over your head. To be fair you come on here spouting off like you're the official Glasgow/BSPA spokesperson and to be honest you do not have a clue what the situation is, not now, not going forward, what is being proposed  and the challenges clubs who can not draw in crowds to cover costs or not being bankrolled have to face.

I don't think the Rye House failure sadly will be the last, the issues Workington face have been well highlighted, however other clubs are feeling the pinch, on top of financial worries Edinburgh look like they will finally loose their home with Armadale going to the developers, Redcar who have one of the best sites for Speedway in the country look like they are in trouble for different reasons, and hand on heart the whole thing is a mess.

At a BSPA meeting in the none to distant past the 21 Championship and Premiership teams (as was then) were asked to be honest and raise their hands if they we making a profit and only two clubs did (and Glasgow wasn't one of them) and some of the story's with regard to losses and how much teams were having to be subsidised (or Bank Rolled) were staggering but no one seems to want to wake up and smell the coffee.

I had an exchange of emails with Len Silver at the start of the season and I didn't agree with much of what Len had to say (Speedway seems to be like that with strong opinions) but I must be honest now and state that much of what he did say has come to fruition and I think much of what he was suggesting will need to be adopted if the sport is to survive and I take my hat off to him with what he has achieved in the sport and he has years of experience to call upon, as did the late Bob Duggard who was another who was a grand statesman within the sport, however look at how the clubs they are/were involved with have developed.

Godfrey and Chapman (wrongly in my view) get lambasted on here at times but believe me they are realists and understand the issues within the sport better than most and they will try their utmost to make the sport viable and sustainable, but my personal view is it will be a long and hard road with a few more casualties along the way with possibly fundamental changes in the sport that will possibly alienate more fans, I sincerely hope I am wrong.

Oh and as I am "King of the Dickheads" that drink and a bite is still on offer (my shout) should you travel South of the Border and I will also tell you a story about a guy who was picked on by a clown for years and to gain his revenge he went to the "School of Sparkling Wit and Repartee"; you may be surprised as to what his answer was to said clown.

Finally whose Steve, as you have tried Jacko, Hoggy and one or two others, you will be accusing me of being Laura next.

Regards
THJ

[Gazc]

17 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Honestly

You haven't got a clue pal, come and look me up when you come down and I will put you in the picture, and as the Workington Trust facilitator I have the ideas just not the disposable cash to put them into action, (and I am not short of a bob or two) however, you may know some of the ideas like spending £200k+ on advertisement of the sport to put an additional 64/66 on the crowd, so even if we call it 70 who then spend £25 each on a match day that's £35,000 back in the coffers over the season for a £200K expenditure, so yep that makes good business sense doesn't it? and I wont go down the salary root as that just makes a mockery of the sport when a guy makes more riding in Scotland for a championship club than Poland, or a 3 point reserve gets a better deal than other clubs No 1? so yes make no bones about it  "Bank Rolling the club", (which is exactly what is happening) and that is only bad when its to the detriment of all others isn't it. (which is also exactly what is happening) I also wont go down the route of commenting on "the infrastructure" that now sees Stewart Dickson as a co-promoter at Leicester and what went on there, but they obviously went to the Mike Ashley School of Business, a case of "I'm all right Jack" "fox you"

Further and for the record I am not sure anyone from the Workington promotion called anyone a "Bar Steward" and they certainly haven't upset the BSPA as far as I am aware and you have answered your own question you clown "Laura and her partners pour money (that she (nor they) can probably ill afford) down the drain that is Workington speedway." This is due to the fact that they do not have the disposable cash to "Bank Roll" the club, its got feck all to do with being good at business Speedway as a business is virtually redundant and as countless people on here have pointed out. "unless there are changes there will be more casualties than Worky " Honest

Having the disposable cash to "Pish it up agin a wall" and not give a "rats ass" on what you spend; and not care whether the business is profitable or not is one thing' and good luck if you can afford to do this; however trying to run a business model where there is a culture of being shafted by your fellow competitors (not wanting to come on originally agreed dates for a start) on a reducing turnover with increasing costs is another. Oh and here's a thought; the Newcastle promotion got a parliamentary group set up for Speedway for continuous promotion of the sport at a national level so "Eggheads" is right up there with that like eh" so a can see where you are coming from!!!. I remember when a team from Carrillion were on there and look what happened to them!!! Dickheads more like; Honestly you have a cheek calling the Edinburgh lot "Smug" and to have a pop at Jenga and TaylorJ about their support of their chosen club (and I agree they can be somewhat embarrassing at times)  but this when the "Tiggs" have some of the most vociferous know nothing "Dickheads" imaginable on here is also a bit rich.

The offer is there come and see me before the Play off meeting at DP and I will get the beers and bites in (you can try the food at DP and post from experience for a change) or if you don't drink I can supply plenty of tea and coffee (Sorry we don't do Bucky unfortunately) but I can even supply a nice Malt, but this will be from the east coast which will probably prejudice you against drinking it. However we will depart as friends and you may learn a few home  truths that open your eyes not only about our sport but about your beloved promotion that you are so "sook" about.

Ask the lasses in the Programme or the 50/50 Draw Ticket Booths and they will point me out, look forward to meeting up with your good self; oh and if you go to the doctors and get a prescription for some "ursodeoxycholic acid" or ask for a "proton pump inhibitor" I think you will find it most beneficial

Regards
THJ

Is this your opinion if so coming from one who portrays himself to be in the know this is in extremely poor taste , I am sure most of my fellow Tigers fans will feel the same I am actually surprised at that comment as you usually put what you have to say across pretty well generally so to call a certain fan base dickheads is poor. 

[tyretrax]

To be totally honest, by the way my proper name is John, I have stopped reading his rants.

[TotallyHonestJohn]

5 hours ago, Gazc said:

Is this your opinion if so coming from one who portrays himself to be in the know this is in extremely poor taste , I am sure most of my fellow Tigers fans will feel the same I am actually surprised at that comment as you usually put what you have to say across pretty well generally so to call a certain fan base dickheads is poor. 

Frustration Gazc at the "holier than thou" opinions put over by some on here, you are correct I am in a fortunate position that I have had senior level contact with several promotions across the entire sport and believe me my best interests are for the sport as a whole not for a select chosen few. Personally I do not like the secretive culture adopted by the BSPA were a "Chinese Whispers" format for disseminating information is adopted.  It breeds a culture of "if I don't know what is going on I will make something up" then bang it out on here which to be fair just gets everyone's "backs up" (doesn't it or is it just me?)

All clubs have these types and where you have highlighted the offending line I will point out it does state "some of the most vociferous " the Tigers certainly do not have exclusivity of this in any way shape or form. Only those who can listen (or read) will really lean (some just aren't prepared to do that) and I have attended numerous meetings with regard to moving the sport forward and listened to what the issues are and I do not envy Rob Godfrey or Buster Chapman in the slightest but people have to recognise it just isn't one sides fault and no one can adopt the "it wasn't us" line, everyone is culpable in this and Glasgow need to take their share of the blame,  The only way I can see any hope would be for promotions to work together but there are factions at play and a self interest and distrust culture that I feel (my own opinion) is just to vast to bridge. Also I will add amongst the snide back biting and childish dross that often rears its head on here there are some very sensible and constructive comments and ideas that quite often get overlooked.

However I will say is this; that it is not any fault of Glasgow if a club is evicted from their home, or is it Glasgow's fault if a clubs fan base flat-lines, or a promotion struggles, or lives beyond their means. (Glasgow fans actively contribute across the league to other clubs as they have always had good travelling support) What needs to be looked at is the effort the Courtney Family have put in a Berwick this season (absolutely faultless) or the Newcastle promotion yet they were both slated (along with Workington) for putting out what were perceived as weakened teams. (yet none finished bottom of the league by the way and there has been some fantastic meetings at these venues, I know because I have been there to see them); I am sure these clubs would love a Bomber Harris or a Craig Cook (or in Newcastle's case a Pedersen (Nicki or Bjarne) or Kenneth Bjerre possibly; even in the twilight of their careers) but costs dictated that this was just not feasible, but its a bit nauseating when these teams (and their fans) get castigated for competing in a league which lets be fair wouldn't be there without them in it; and have to compete in what they consider as a league which is not even set up on a level playing field. (and again that could be down to envy of the financial security some clubs find themselves in) (even I get the Green Eyed Goblins at times)

It isn't anyone's fault singly that the sport is going through a difficult time; as I see it there is a collective responsibility, however some clubs are taking responsibility and others are ploughing their own furrow to the detriment of all others, added to which you  have the negative diatribe on here which at times can be rather obnoxious to say the least. I put a positive post up a month or two back stating I thought people would be pleasantly surprised in the direction the sport was heading in and couldn't really elaborate at that time on what was happening, and to be honest I am glad I didn't as the plan that I had been made aware of which I (me personally) thought contained some great ideas has been all but binned!!! So what do I know

So I sincerely apologise if my post has offended you personally and that the point I was trying to put over has been missed as that was not my intention

Regards
THJ

Edited October 9, 2018 by TotallyHonestJohn
missed out key word

[Tigerforever]

Your last paragraph is spot on,  Unfortunately we have at least three clubs in the championship who maybe not make it to the tapes next season with the worrying news that’s now coming out of Redcar and Peterborough, could the championship been down to single figures come 2019 ?   Every year we hear that this is the most important agm, I think that ship has sailed and clubs are now sinking!

[Taylorj]

16 hours ago, SharpenRake said:

In the interests of harmony I'm out of here. Thanks for calling some of us Dick heads its really appreciated especially coming from someone with such mastery of the English language and worth a few bob - give my regards to steve.

Wow....that was a totally different reply to your first one last night... edited now I see , 

Edited October 9, 2018 by Taylorj

[TotallyHonestJohn]

32 minutes ago, Tigerforever said:

Your last paragraph is spot on,  Unfortunately we have at least three clubs in the championship who maybe not make it to the tapes next season with the worrying news that’s now coming out of Redcar and Peterborough, could the championship been down to single figures come 2019 ?   Every year we hear that this is the most important agm, I think that ship has sailed and clubs are now sinking!

My personal opinion is this; I think we will only see one league next season unless some of the National League teams can be "Forced up" so teams will have the choice of where to sit league wise. By that I mean the first tier will be roughly at a Championship level as is now and possibly six man teams (possibly not), and a much diluted product than we currently experience in the "Top League" further the second division (if we don't have one league) will be built to about 32.5 rather than 42.5  points to thin out the higher averaged riders thus saving costs and radically restricting doubling up. (if doubling up is not done away with which I can also see happening) 

This week (Tuesday or Wednesday cant remember) sees a start to a series of BSPA meetings looking to put a definitive plan together to take the sport forward. One league 14/16/18 teams possibly, or 2 leagues top league 8/10 teams and 2nd Div 8/10 teams. It doesn't bode well really does it and it is a sorry state of affairs looking at it. Hope I am "Totally Wrong" but I can see much else really. 

Don't hold your breath and start with very low expectations then you wont be disappointed.

Regards
THJ

[Byker Biker]

1 hour ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Frustration Gazc at the "holier than thou" opinions put over by some on here, you are correct I am in a fortunate position that I have had senior level contact with several promotions across the entire sport and believe me my best interests are for the sport as a whole not for a select chosen few. Personally I do not like the secretive culture adopted by the BSPA were a "Chinese Whispers" format for disseminating information is adopted.  It breeds a culture of "if I don't know what is going on I will make something up" then bang it out on here which to be fair just gets everyone's "backs up" (doesn't it or is it just me?)

All clubs have these types and where you have highlighted the offending line I will point out it does state "some of the most" the Tigers certainly do not have exclusivity of this in any way shape or form. Only those who can listen (or read) will really lean (some just aren't prepared to do that) and I have attended numerous meetings with regard to moving the sport forward and listened to what the issues are and I do not envy Rob Godfrey or Buster Chapman in the slightest but people have to recognise it just isn't one sides fault and no one can adopt the "it wasn't us" line, everyone is culpable in this and Glasgow need to take their share of the blame,  The only way I can see any hope would be for promotions to work together but there are factions at play and a self interest and distrust culture that I feel (my own opinion) is just to vast to bridge. Also I will add amongst the snide back biting and childish dross that often rears its head on here there are some very sensible and constructive comments and ideas that quite often get overlooked.

However I will say is this; that it is not any fault of Glasgow if a club is evicted from their home, or is it Glasgow's fault if a clubs fan base flat-lines, or a promotion struggles, or lives beyond their means. (Glasgow fans actively contribute across the league to other clubs as they have always had good travelling support) What needs to be looked at is the effort the Courtney Family have put in a Berwick this season (absolutely faultless) or the Newcastle promotion yet they were both slated (along with Workington) for putting out what were perceived as weakened teams. (yet none finished bottom of the league by the way and there has been some fantastic meetings at these venues, I know because I have been there to see them); I am sure these clubs would love a Bomber Harris or a Craig Cook (or in Newcastle's case a Pedersen (Nicki or Bjarne) or Kenneth Bjerre possibly; even in the twilight of their careers) but costs dictated that this was just not feasible, but its a bit nauseating when these teams (and their fans) get castigated for competing in a league which lets be fair wouldn't be there without them in it; and have to compete in what they consider as a league which is not even set up on a level playing field. (and again that could be down to envy of the financial security some clubs find themselves in) (even I get the Green Eyed Goblins at times)

It isn't anyone's fault singly that the sport is going through a difficult time; as I see it there is a collective responsibility, however some clubs are taking responsibility and others are ploughing their own furrow to the detriment of all others, added to which you  have the negative diatribe on here which at times can be rather obnoxious to say the least. I put a positive post up a month or two back stating I thought people would be pleasantly surprised in the direction the sport was heading in and couldn't really elaborate at that time on what was happening, and to be honest I am glad I didn't as the plan that I had been made aware of which I (me personally) thought contained some great ideas has been all but binned!!! So what do I know

So I sincerely apologise if my post has offended you personally and that the point I was trying to put over has been missed as that was not my intention

Regards
THJ

Have you ever been the front end of a pantomime Horse?

[jenga]

26 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

My personal opinion is this; I think we will only see one league next season unless some of the National League teams can be "Forced up" so teams will have the choice of where to sit league wise. By that I mean the first tier will be roughly at a Championship level as is now and possibly six man teams (possibly not), and a much diluted product than we currently experience in the "Top League" further the second division (if we don't have one league) will be built to about 32.5 rather than 42.5  points to thin out the higher averaged riders thus saving costs and radically restricting doubling up. (if doubling up is not done away with which I can also see happening) 

This week (Tuesday or Wednesday cant remember) sees a start to a series of BSPA meetings looking to put a definitive plan together to take the sport forward. One league 14/16/18 teams possibly, or 2 leagues top league 8/10 teams and 2nd Div 8/10 teams. It doesn't bode well really does it and it is a sorry state of affairs looking at it. Hope I am "Totally Wrong" but I can see much else really. 

Don't hold your breath and start with very low expectations then you wont be disappointed.

Regards
THJ

there will not be a diluted 2 tier of speedway as last season it was deemed that scott nicholls and cookie were too good for the 2nd tier of speedway. as proven when soliceters get involved the bspa pooed them selves and scotty was let into the league. wham and the next thing we know is that a current G.P. rider is allowed to sign for a 2nd tier club . this was a no no according to the rules and the next thing is that we HAVE A SPEEDWAY TYPE Bosman rule and the BSPA  fall apart and ruin out sport . why are the likes of harris,lawson ,morris,ellis allowed into our (champ) league .? 32.5 is not too far off the mark , but 42.50 is better and will allow teams to build to a decent strength .  but as proved in many posts by me i know sweet football association . the BSPA have power over us minions . but the law hase the BSPA by the conkers . they made their bed and the bed bugs are now biting .

 

[TotallyHonestJohn]

1 hour ago, Byker Biker said:

Have you ever been the front end of a pantomime Horse?

Nah nowt so gay, coming from Longbenton then moving to Byker the only pantomime I have ever been involved with was when I had my season ticket for Newcastle United which I gave up not the last time we were promoted but the time before that and vowed never to go back until Ashley had gone, unfortunately I have fell off the wagon about half a dozen times over the years as the mind is willing but the will power unfortunately is very weak... Also I remember when a group of theatrical players came to Longbenton High School to do some interactive learning and got the B'Jesus kicked out of them and that put me off the theatre "for life" Oh and a substantial squad of my year group and the one above suspended from school for a couple of weeks... Good old LBAB those were the days eh...

Regards
THJ

[TotallyHonestJohn]

1 hour ago, jenga said:

there will not be a diluted 2 tier of speedway as last season it was deemed that scott nicholls and cookie were too good for the 2nd tier of speedway. as proven when soliceters get involved the bspa pooed them selves and scotty was let into the league. wham and the next thing we know is that a current G.P. rider is allowed to sign for a 2nd tier club . this was a no no according to the rules and the next thing is that we HAVE A SPEEDWAY TYPE Bosman rule and the BSPA  fall apart and ruin out sport . why are the likes of harris,lawson ,morris,ellis allowed into our (champ) league .? 32.5 is not too far off the mark , but 42.50 is better and will allow teams to build to a decent strength .  but as proved in many posts by me i know sweet football association . the BSPA have power over us minions . but the law hase the BSPA by the conkers . they made their bed and the bed bugs are now biting .

 

Don't disagree however I have to correct you there in bold above Jenga as there was never anything in the rules to stop Glasgow signing a GP rider, what there was back in the day was an "unwritten rule" agreed by the BSPA promoters at the time "not to sign current GP riders". A "gentleman's agreement" if you will and this was to protect Workington who had Carl Stonehewer at the time. It was all a bit contrived and I won't give the full history but rest assured Glasgow didn't break any rules. Just all the old boys who had all agreed to the original request by Workington to ring fence Stoney (or GP riders) at the time; are all now long gone.

Although it is a bit rich because a few years back Keith Denham tried to change his team following a few bad injuries and bring in a rider or two to re-balance his team for the old Young Shield Competition (I think) and was told he wasn't allowed to!!! when asked why he was told there was an "unwritten rule" and "gentleman's agreement" which stated that he couldn't change his team after the cut off date for matches. I believe the said "unwritten rule" was officially written into the rule books the following season.

However just to confirm Glasgow done nothing wrong in signing Craig

So what you need to appreciate is when is an "unwritten rule" not a rule at all? Answer... when you have enough cash to threaten to "sue" the powers that be of course!!!

Roll over lads and get your bellies tickled

Regards
THJ

[scaramanga]

but the unwritten rule /gentlemans agreement whould have stopped others trying to sign a gp rider if they wernt on the nice list

 

[jenga]

2 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Don't disagree however I have to correct you there in bold above Jenga as there was never anything in the rules to stop Glasgow signing a GP rider, what there was back in the day was an "unwritten rule" agreed by the BSPA promoters at the time "not to sign current GP riders". A "gentleman's agreement" if you will and this was to protect Workington who had Carl Stonehewer at the time. It was all a bit contrived and I won't give the full history but rest assured Glasgow didn't break any rules. Just all the old boys who had all agreed to the original request by Workington to ring fence Stoney (or GP riders) at the time; are all now long gone.

Although it is a bit rich because a few years back Keith Denham tried to change his team following a few bad injuries and bring in a rider or two to re-balance his team for the old Young Shield Competition (I think) and was told he wasn't allowed to!!! when asked why he was told there was an "unwritten rule" and "gentleman's agreement" which stated that he couldn't change his team after the cut off date for matches. I believe the said "unwritten rule" was officially written into the rule books the following season.

However just to confirm Glasgow done nothing wrong in signing Craig

So what you need to appreciate is when is an "unwritten rule" not a rule at all? Answer... when you have enough cash to threaten to "sue" the powers that be of course!!!

Roll over lads and get your bellies tickled

Regards
THJ

i see what you are saying. the gentlemen,s    agreement . that prove that there are NO  gentlemen is speedway and its run by the corrupt few for their own personal gain and sod the rest . is that right godman ?

[Byker Biker]

4 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Nah nowt so gay, coming from Longbenton then moving to Byker the only pantomime I have ever been involved with was when I had my season ticket for Newcastle United which I gave up not the last time we were promoted but the time before that and vowed never to go back until Ashley had gone, unfortunately I have fell off the wagon about half a dozen times over the years as the mind is willing but the will power unfortunately is very weak... Also I remember when a group of theatrical players came to Longbenton High School to do some interactive learning and got the B'Jesus kicked out of them and that put me off the theatre "for life" Oh and a substantial squad of my year group and the one above suspended from school for a couple of weeks... Good old LBAB those were the days eh...

Regards
THJ

Have you ever been the rear end of a pantomime horse?

[jenga]

oh , i get it . its a game where the horses ar%e  can let wind out anytime it wants to and the head, so to speak has to hold it in all the time . me , i am always the ar$e @ pantomimes .  

[Byker Biker]

3 hours ago, jenga said:

oh , i get it . its a game where the horses ar%e  can let wind out anytime it wants to and the head, so to speak has to hold it in all the time . me , i am always the ar$e @ pantomimes .  

Nope

[TotallyHonestJohn]

13 hours ago, Byker Biker said:

Have you ever been the rear end of a pantomime horse?

Is there a job on offer like? I'm available for either end if the pay is right

Regards
THJ