Moranboys Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Im sure many will don't think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comet49 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) I’m sure Newcastle would have had Rene back and airport there too, people (Rene) can say what they won’t or would do but can think differently later on. I thought Rasmus did ok last time, hopefully we’ll hear an end of season speech from him again lol. Looking forward to March.. Edited January 3, 2018 by comet49 Misspelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted January 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, MANSE said: With the crowd that Workington get their must be a money man somewhere 3 Danes ,Proctor,2 top young talents and Campton at reserve that's going to be a hefty wage bill. I believe we tried for 3 of them but could not match Workies deals even withthe crowd that glasgow get , the still lost money last season . 22 minutes ago, SpeedwayNeutral said: That kills the rumour that Rene said he would only ride for Glasgow and Newcastle in the UK, considering Newcastle have only signed two riders.... that was not a rumour , rene said that himself . 22 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said: It would be extremely surprising if Workington were paying out more money than Glasgow could afford. workington always pay within their means . (looks like some good meeting when you come up to worky hallytigger) 19 minutes ago, geoff100 said: That is one good solid line up now its up to us fans to let everyone know in the county what a good team and racing we have well done laura and team . TELL THE WORLD AND MORE .! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 41 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said: It would be extremely surprising if Workington were paying out more money than Glasgow could afford. Think Manse is trying to reel one or two in HT one in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gazc said: Think Manse is trying to reel one or two in HT one in particular. He succeeded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, MANSE said: With the crowd that Workington get their must be a money man somewhere 3 Danes ,Proctor,2 top young talents and Campton at reserve that's going to be a hefty wage bill. I believe we tried for 3 of them but could not match Workies deals what a load of rubish its not always down to money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, SpeedwayNeutral said: That kills the rumour that Rene said he would only ride for Glasgow and Newcastle in the UK, considering Newcastle have only signed two riders.... its no rumour it was fact but when a rider hasnt got a ride he sometimes changes his mind if the rene bach that rode against workington for glasgow turns up hell be a crowd pleaser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Moranboys said: can we now have kyle please kyle is up for grabs acording to sheffield but they arnt willing to pay for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Must be the weather then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, scaramanga said: kyle is up for grabs acording to sheffield but they arnt willing to pay for him Sheffield are just taking laura for a ride howarth can sign in march if no agrement on price is agreed and they will pay less than comets want after appeal so its a win win for them,2 teams want him yet no one wants to pay for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, scaramanga said: its no rumour it was fact but when a rider hasnt got a ride he sometimes changes his mind if the rene bach that rode against workington for glasgow turns up hell be a crowd pleaser Rene's main sponsor was Sapphire Engineering, which was our sponsor and whose owner is Alan Hedley, who has just left Newcastle. In that it can be thought that it is not coincidence. If Rene was never in the thoughts for Glasgow's team, Worky would not have to outbid them to get him. If you could get him back to his 2010 form, he would be brilliant for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) if workington want too much then it will go to arbitration the problem with arbitration is its agreed by the bspa isnt it and we all know they look after there friends but as kyle was in 2 tittle winning teams last year and they both want him back that suerly must up his value get your hand in your pocket wolverhampton and buy him before sheffield do Edited January 3, 2018 by scaramanga typo better correct it before the forum clever clogs spot it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Tsunami said: Rene's main sponsor was Sapphire Engineering, which was our sponsor and whose owner is Alan Hedley, who has just left Newcastle. In that it can be thought that it is not coincidence. If Rene was never in the thoughts for Glasgow's team, Worky would not have to outbid them to get him. If you could get him back to his 2010 form, he would be brilliant for you. id rather have him in the 2016 form when he was putting maximums in 2 or 3 times he visited workington with glasgow he was out to prove a point and did so in a way you took notice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, scaramanga said: if workington want too much then it will go to arbitration the problem with arbitration is its agreed by the bspa isnt it and we all know they look after there friends but as kyle was in 2 tittle winning teams last year and they both want him back that suerly musy up his value get your hand in your pocket wolverhampton and buy him before sheffield do No evidence of that for many years. The arbitration fees that I know about were just about spot on current values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 Given the general financial position of speedway at present and the further instability the likelyhood of no TV money adds then I would think transfer values are at rock bottom right now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Tsunami said: No evidence of that for many years. The arbitration fees that I know about were just about spot on current values. but thats the thing its all opinions 1 garage values a car at £3000 trade in another values it at £4000 trade in its the same with footballers and speedway riders there worth what people are willing to pay if a team dosnt want to sell for that price then they shouldnt be forced to and a loan fee should be paid but also kyle is unlikely to ever return to workington so why shouldnt they get a full transfer fee at a sencible price and as ive said kyle is probably at his best form ever so price should reflect that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, scaramanga said: but thats the thing its all opinions 1 garage values a car at £3000 trade in another values it at £4000 trade in its the same with footballers and speedway riders there worth what people are willing to pay if a team dosnt want to sell for that price then they shouldnt be forced to and a loan fee should be paid but also kyle is unlikely to ever return to workington so why shouldnt they get a full transfer fee at a sencible price and as ive said kyle is probably at his best form ever so price should reflect that And that is the main factor, as the comparison against a trade in isn't relevant to a speedway transfer. A rider has a value regardless of anything else, and is set and agreed by an appointed committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Given the general financial position of speedway at present and the further instability the likelyhood of no TV money adds then I would think transfer values are at rock bottom right now since when has our league got anything from the tv deals ? as we wernt wanted on tv as it would show what a poor product the socalled topleague is id be very surprised if any of the championship teams got anything direct from that sponsership so shouldnt affect a transfer fee between 2 championship clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Tsunami said: And that is the main factor, as the comparison against a trade in isn't relevant to a speedway transfer. A rider has a value regardless of anything else, and is set and agreed by an appointed committee. the point im making is the fee should be agreed between the 2 clubs involved if no agreement can be made then no sale if i was selling my car i would agree the fee with the person buying it like it or not take it or leave it we wouldnt got to a person in the next town and ask them to set a price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 3, 2018 Report Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, scaramanga said: since when has our league got anything from the tv deals ? as we wernt wanted on tv as it would show what a poor product the socalled topleague is id be very surprised if any of the championship teams got anything direct from that sponsership so shouldnt affect a transfer fee between 2 championship clubs Market forces - generally fees would be higher where top tier clubs had extra income from TV money This would circulate to all levels Without it transfer values at all levels will fall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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