Haza Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 In all do respect, it is not the fault of the BSPA why the top riders don't ride here, it is all down to finance. We have to accept we cannot afford the demands these top riders require, and cut our material to suit what we can afford..... sadly it is the BSPA fault theyve made so the top riders wont race here because of the way the sports run in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 To be fair, why should Woffinden, Zagar, Kildemand etc be on 7 averages when Morris and Thorsell are on over 8? It kind of makes sense, although a bit general. So, if Doyle doesn't get a team this year, does he come back on 9.00 next year? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 It’s all one step forward and two steps back. Fixed nights for the respective leagues then only one rider over 8, stop Nicholls etc doubling down and no tv deal. It’s impressive isn’t it. Absoloutly bloody clueless 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I don't like these arbitrary rules. Presumably it means NKI's average goes down while Woffinden, Zagar, Kildemand etc. goes up? Should have used the 1.08 multiplier. Agree with this. Just because your a GP rider it shouldn't necessarily mean you're a 9. Surely use the multiplier or at least look at their averages in other leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Agree with this. Just because your a GP rider it shouldn't necessarily mean you're a 9. Surely use the multiplier or at least look at their averages in other leagues. I think 9 is reasonable enough. It puts them above Morris/Thorsell and below Doyle/Lindgren. Plus their current averages were achieved under the old race format and in a stronger league. Edited November 28, 2017 by grachan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) The word 'transparency' was bandied about when Buster first took office, so lets have some now. Lets hear WHY these decisions are being taken. Other than the odd paranoid conspiracy theorist most of us would guess it's all some attempt at cost cutting but EXPLAIN it all to the few hard core fans who are left so we can try and understand why the product is being made less attractive once again. Edited November 28, 2017 by Gordon Bennett 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 It getting beyond a joke if aGP rider is assessed as a 9 .Its pretty obvious its cost cutting exercise ,It should have been 1 big league with 1 over 8 and promote NL riders into reserve positions for the future IMO.Wonder what admission costs will be for Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 The word 'transparency' was bandied about when Buster first took office, so lets have some now. Lets hear WHY these decisions are being taken. Other than the odd paranoid conspiracy theorist most of us would guess it's all some attempt at cost cutting but EXPLAIN it all to the few hard core fans who are left so we can try and understand why the product is being made less attractive once again. Being brutally honest I think it’s worse now than in previous years. BSPA don’t do transparency, fair or reasonable or even good advice going on recent events. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perton Wolf Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 It getting beyond a joke if aGP rider is assessed as a 9 .Its pretty obvious its cost cutting exercise ,It should have been 1 big league with 1 over 8 and promote NL riders into reserve positions for the future IMO.Wonder what admission costs will be for Premiership. The product gets worse but the price remains the same or even increases. I want to get a season ticket for next year (as I have the previous 2) but all of these new ridiculous dumbing down rules are really putting me off. The standard last year was just about acceptable but it's bound to get even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Its been said on the Swindon Facebook page by a wolves fan that any GP rider will be 9 if they missed last season. This includes Kildemand. Also said that with a TV deal Somerset would look at Zagar/Killer as number 1 however without they cant affoed either. This is only what has been site on our page Still think Morris will struggle, I dont!!! Me neither now. Will hold his own as its only going to be Championship racing in the top flight due to the weakening of the product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I think 9 is reasonable enough. It puts them above Morris/Thorsell and below Doyle/Lindgren. Plus their current averages were achieved under the old race format and in a stronger league. Chris Holder is still a GP rider who averaged less than 8 in 2017. Will his average be increased if he rides in 2018? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Its good to see the bosses finally clamping down on these low average ringers. I remember when the clamped down on clubs willy nilly calling meetings off with a high profile fine and point deduction. I think we all got fed up of top league riders picking and choosing meetings, so to see them clamp down on this by banning a rider for subsequent meetings was welcomed by all. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Chris Holder is still a GP rider who averaged less than 8 in 2017. Will his average be increased if he rides in 2018? No. For the same reason Nick Morris won't have his decreased. It's a valid average obtained in a league/race format that is the same as this year.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 So, presumably, this mean GP riders who have been out of the UK. So Zagar is now a 9? That scuppers any chance of him coming here. Vaculik also a 9. What about people like Kildemand? Rode as a reserve and not in it this year. Does he become a 9 or does he retain his average? Why scrap the 2 Brit rule? Makes no sense at all. I assume Zagar and Kildemand are a 9. Completely agree about the 2 Brit rule. Extremely short sighted. So, if Doyle doesn't get a team this year, does he come back on 9.00 next year? Doyle will be here in the UK this year unless he prices himself out. Next year is soooo next year!!! Anything can happen with the rules as you know!! Chris Holder is still a GP rider who averaged less than 8 in 2017. Will his average be increased if he rides in 2018? Holder, like Lindren and Doyle rode here in 2017 so keep their averages which is perfect sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I can see Doyle to Poole happening. With Brady's contract being terminated and going to Somerset. Otherwise Doyle wont get a ride which would be a shame for British Speedway. BV - Cook KL - ? Leic - Vaculik Poole - ? Rye - Cant afford Doyle imo. Somerset - Cant afford Doyle. Swin - Morris Wolves - Lindgren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) I can see Doyle to Poole happening. With Brady's contract being terminated and going to Somerset. Otherwise Doyle wont get a ride which would be a shame for British Speedway. BV - Cook KL - ? Leic - Vaculik Poole - ? Rye - Cant afford Doyle imo. Somerset - Cant afford Doyle. Swin - Morris Wolves - Lindgren Again, do you know how much money Rye House owners have.....more than most in the league, Wouldn't count them out. Doyle will not be at Poole. Edited November 28, 2017 by hyabb17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Doyle could go to Rye (who have investors who spend), Poole or Lynn. He has options still. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Does it really matter what the GP riders are assessed at - 8.00; 8.50 or 9.00. teams can still have only one 8 and over!! As for Doyle, he's stated in the past that he would never ride for Poole again (well at least not while MF is there). I agree with SB that Rye could be are a serious contender for Doyle's signature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Does it really matter what the GP riders are assessed at - 8.00; 8.50 or 9.00. teams can still have only one 8 and over!! As for Doyle, he's stated in the past that he would never ride for Poole again (well at least not while MF is there). I agree with SB that Rye could be are a serious contender for Doyle's signature. Be interesting who ends up leaving Rye then. Thought Harris, KK and Nicholls would be a shoe in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 It’s all one step forward and two steps back. Fixed nights for the respective leagues then only one rider over 8, stop Nicholls etc doubling down and no tv deal. It’s impressive isn’t it. Absoloutly bloody clueless I would say more than two steps back. Ok so gp riders and riders missing for 12 months are 9. what about some of these up an d coming U21 stars, what figure will be plucked out of the air for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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