A ORLOV Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 THE meeting fee was in addition to the lump sum. Sky paid off their contract earlier this year (rumoured to be £600,000) and that money was distributed amongst the PL tracks. I thought the lump sum stopped a year or two ago just leaving the meeting fee?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 AGM stuff from Wolves talk in Monday night. AGM STUFF......... No TV deal in place. More discussions to take place. Seems clubs aren't happy with no money deal. Doyle is likely to be riding in the top flight (according to Pearson). Pete Adams was at AGM, not CVS. Neither agree with 1 rider over 8 rule or dropping of the 2 Brit rule. 9.00 averages for GP riders or riders out the UK for a season. Only one Tactical substitute ride per meeting, in line with Europe (since when as wasn't the case in 2017???) The minutes have yet to be checked and averages confirmed. No restriction on DU riders. The ISLB confirm that Poland should have priority on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. What happens on bank holiday Mondays is yet to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattfordfan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Not going to get a TV Deal thanks to Buster Chapman weakining the product even further. Potential No.1's next season. BV - Cook Poole - B. Kurtz Rye House - Harris Swindon - N. Morris Edited November 28, 2017 by Poole Pirates Fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Explain why Chapman is to blame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) AGM stuff from Wolves talk in Monday night. AGM STUFF......... No TV deal in place. More discussions to take place. Seems clubs aren't happy with no money deal. Doyle is likely to be riding in the top flight (according to Pearson). Pete Adams was at AGM, not CVS. Neither agree with 1 rider over 8 rule or dropping of the 2 Brit rule. 9.00 averages for GP riders or riders out the UK for a season. Only one Tactical substitute ride per meeting, in line with Europe (since when as wasn't the case in 2017???) The minutes have yet to be checked and averages confirmed. No restriction on DU riders. The ISLB confirm that Poland should have priority on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. What happens on bank holiday Mondays is yet to be seen. So, presumably, this mean GP riders who have been out of the UK. So Zagar is now a 9? That scuppers any chance of him coming here. Vaculik also a 9. What about people like Kildemand? Rode as a reserve and not in it this year. Does he become a 9 or does he retain his average? Why scrap the 2 Brit rule? Makes no sense at all. Edited November 28, 2017 by grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I guess PK is covered by the "riders out of UK for a season" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I guess PK is covered by the "riders out of UK for a season" That must mean GP riders surely. They couldn't apply it to every single rider. Could they? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 That must mean GP riders surely. They couldn't apply it to every single rider. Could they? It certainly makes no sense. Surely if anything its just a reassessment for any rider missing a year? Even then I find it strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 That must mean GP riders surely. They couldn't apply it to every single rider. Could they? Who knows? Ambiguous as ever.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Who knows? Ambiguous as ever.... The BSPA prefer the word "mysterious" which sounds much more exciting and marketable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perton Wolf Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 How can anybody be surprised that there's no TV deal when the smaller clubs have once again voted to weaken the product? Now more news on fixed averages for GP riders has emerged......it just gets more ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 How can anybody be surprised that there's no TV deal when the smaller clubs have once again voted to weaken the product? Now more news on fixed averages for GP riders has emerged......it just gets more ridiculous. BT want to do a deal, it's some promoters that don't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perton Wolf Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 BT want to do a deal, it's some promoters that don't. Probably the same ones who voted to dilute the product further? Still, I imagine the rate that BT is offering isn't as high as it could be if we actually aimed to attract GP riders with our rules, not the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Its been said on the Swindon Facebook page by a wolves fan that any GP rider will be 9 if they missed last season. This includes Kildemand. Also said that with a TV deal Somerset would look at Zagar/Killer as number 1 however without they cant affoed either. This is only what has been site on our page Not going to get a TV Deal thanks to Buster Chapman weakining the product even further. Potential No.1's next season. BV - Cook Poole - B. Kurtz Rye House - Harris Swindon - N. Morris Still think Morris will struggle, I dont!!! Edited November 28, 2017 by hyabb17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Its been said on the Swindon Facebook page by a wolves fan that any GP rider will be 9 if they missed last season. This includes Kildemand. Also said that with a TV deal Somerset would look at Zagar/Killer as number 1 however without they cant affoed either. This is only what has been site on our page Crazy that it would include Kildemand, he was a reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Crazy that it would include Kildemand, he was a reserve.I can only assume it means former full-time GP riders too. Edited November 28, 2017 by frigbo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I don't like these arbitrary rules. Presumably it means NKI's average goes down while Woffinden, Zagar, Kildemand etc. goes up? Should have used the 1.08 multiplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 How can anybody be surprised that there's no TV deal when the smaller clubs have once again voted to weaken the product? Now more news on fixed averages for GP riders has emerged......it just gets more ridiculous. In all do respect, it is not the fault of the BSPA why the top riders don't ride here, it is all down to finance. We have to accept we cannot afford the demands these top riders require, and cut our material to suit what we can afford..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I don't like these arbitrary rules. Presumably it means NKI's average goes down while Woffinden, Zagar, Kildemand etc. goes up? Should have used the 1.08 multiplier. what an absolute farce but Im sure the chairman on it as we speak - I regularly get accused of being negative regarding speedway but how can anyone defend British speedway ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I don't like these arbitrary rules. Presumably it means NKI's average goes down while Woffinden, Zagar, Kildemand etc. goes up? Should have used the 1.08 multiplier. Well I for one think its a great idea. What these riders achieved years ago is of no importance, its the standard they are today that matters. All the four riders you mentioned are all of similar ability so in my book should be of a similar score...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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