A ORLOV Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 If we are unable to sign Niels I would be happy with either Morris or Thorssell both ride Lynn well and both are exciting to watch On a race day Nick and Jason can wave to each other as they pass on the road, bloody daft decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) For me, should have ran five man teams... Â Saving two salaries per team...... Â The top five average of Swindon should have been 'the benchmark' for the other seven teams.. Â Build every team to Swindon's top five.... Â No restrictions on riders averages apart from 'you cannot have a higher average than Swindons top five'... Â British Speedway's top league needs (affordable) quality of rider over quantity.... Â Riding in the top league should be aspirational not 'an extra earner' which for riders six and seven it often is.. Â Five riders per team meaning lots of replacement possibilities to cover injuries and loss of form rather than Guests? Â And credibilty to the League? Â Got to be better than the current 'never mind the the quality, feel the width'.. Edited November 22, 2017 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) WHY should you have to break up your team? Everyone doesn't accept that as witnessed above. Â Don't penalise success. It's ridiculous. One promoter once told me that there was no point trying to bring along young talent because sooner or later he would be forced to see them go elsewhere, probably to a track that did nothing off their own back. Â I repeat ... madness. Then make sure you tuck in to these village idiots in your magazine. Â Fed up of listening to the utter sh*te these morons trot out year in, year out and all they do is reinvent the wheel. Â Either, make the sport watchable and tempt the quality back or chuck it all in and go to one league. Â Halfway house every year does nothing for no one except disaffect supporters and riders alike. Edited November 21, 2017 by theblueboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Don't tell me.... that was Dent Oliver! CERTAINLY not ... of a much newer vintage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 We can't keep building to the average of the league winners with too less riders. No team has to release all it's riders, why does everyone keep suggesting they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 The biggest risk if anyone takes on Thorssell isn't his ability away, it's his ability to get back to the level he was at prior to the injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Then make sure you tuck in to these village idiots in your magazine. Â Fed up of listening to the utter sh*te these morons trot out year in, year out and all they do is reinvent the wheel. Â Either, make the sport watchable and tempt the quality back or chuck it all in and go to one league. Â Halfway house every year does nothing for no one except disaffect supporters and riders alike. Â Spot on - either make the sport attractable, exciting and thrilling as above to go into the one diluted league with young new riders ( only racing against themselves ) - to give that total of riders required. Halfway house - as we have gotten year on year can only drive more people away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Spot on - either make the sport attractable, exciting and thrilling as above to go into the one diluted league with young new riders ( only racing against themselves ) - to give that total of riders required. Halfway house - as we have gotten year on year can only drive more people away.And it also smacks of having no vision for the Sport and therefore, no mid or long term plan... (And therefore no Strong Leadership)...  Stick up a five year plan for the Sport, set yearly goals and make everyone aware of what you are doing, why you are doing it, how you will deliver it, and the ultimate objective it will deliver...  And stop trying to 'appease' everyone who will, by definition, have differing agendas...  Build the plan collaboratively but make it clear when finalised all sign up to it or walk away if you dont agree...  No Half Arsed "ahh but's", however well intentioned...  The tail seems to wag the dog in British Speedway, but by keeping the weakest on almost permanent 'life support' it can never grow the Sport as it will be continually dumbing down instead of moving forward...  A perfect example is this year's 42.5 average per team. Potentially a good move. But no need for the caveat of only one 8 pt+ rider. More appeasement...  Simply, if you cannot afford to put out a team of Premiership quality using the 42.5 target,then don't ride in it...  Then, if that means there are not enough teams available to make up a credible Premiership then don't run the League at that 42.5 strength and build the top League to a lower standard...  But make that decision, stick with it, and don't bring in any appeasement adjustments, as in the long run you will be making them for anyone and everyone forever, and ultimately therefore, never moving forward.. Edited November 22, 2017 by mikebv 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 ? You mean BT sport i assume ! Â Nope, he meant Sky. BT had the costs covered by Sky who paid out of their contract a season early. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 ? You mean BT sport i assume ! I believe last years live television rights were paid by Sky TV even though it was shown on BT sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 The biggest risk if anyone takes on Thorssell isn't his ability away, it's his ability to get back to the level he was at prior to the injury. Â I don't envisage that being much of an issue. Â The bigger risk is he has never even ridden at heat leader for any prolonged spell. Â His average is based upon riding at No 4 and is quite inflated as a result. Â Next year should have been the year he transitioned to No 2 heat leader.. throwing him in at No 1 is a big ask, especially if the team he is in is struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Stick up a five year plan for the Sport, set yearly goals and make everyone aware of what you are doing, why you are doing it, how you will deliver it, and the ultimate objective it will deliver...  The Chairman said after the 2015 AGM; “We’ve got a five-year plan and I’m confident we can get to where we want to be within that time scale." Edited November 22, 2017 by Alan Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017  The Chairman said after the 2015 AGM; “We’ve got a five-year plan and I’m confident we can get to where we want to be within that time scale." Looking at the dumbing down of the teams again it is leading to one big league plus NL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Looking at the dumbing down of the teams again it is leading to one big league plus NL. Â They're not being dumbed down much this year, if anything at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Looking at the dumbing down of the teams again it is leading to one big league plus NL. I wouldn't be surprised if the Premiership was stronger than last year. Vaculik already in and Zagar wanting to come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Â They're not being dumbed down much this year, if anything at all. Not dumbed down "much" still means being dumbed down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if the Premiership was stronger than last year. Vaculik already in and Zagar wanting to come back. quite agree i think it will be stronger , the only thing that annoying that some riders may not get a track because of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Not dumbed down "much" still means being dumbed down. I don't agree with the only one 8+ rider but the new team average of 42.50 means that the overall standard will be slightly higher than last year if everyone builds to or, near to, that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 The Chairman said after the 2015 AGM; “We’ve got a five-year plan and I’m confident we can get to where we want to be within that time scale." Unfortunately he has mislaid the used envelope it was scribbled down on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 'RIDER CONTROL' was knocking about in the early Seventies when I first attended. . Â (A good job the Internet wasn't invented back then) Â Bottom line is chopping and changing personnel year in year out does nothing to engage fan or rider loyalty, does nothing to engage long term sponsors who may want to associate themselves over a long period with 'star men' and does nothing to help the promotion or marketing of a team locally... Â Yet year on year on year teams make wholesale changes swapping riders just for the Sport to (at the very best) stand still... When we had Wilson, Boulger and Jessup at Leicester, plus a cast of regulars filling the other places, the crowds were good and interest high. All three moved on at various times although I think that DJ was first to go. There were conflicting stories around at the time as to whether he moved due to Rider Control, excessive money demands, or tightwad promoters. Whatever, we were then treated to a succession of riders coming in via the Rider Control system who were substandard and in many cases didn't want to be there and showed it by their performances. The club's decline was rapid and steep from then on until Rogers revived it a few years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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