Argos Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 I hear theres a big spat going on between Richard Hall and Cradley re him picking and choosing his meetings, presumably to keep is average down for next season, I can see why younger riders do that but in Halls case this is not the situation, when Birmingham tried to sign him last season, as short term replacement for Tom Perry is average was 10.54, for whatever reason he is now on a 6.. average do you think is average should be re assessed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 He has to be reassessed as at least an 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moleman27 Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 He has to be re-assesed as he may have only done 3 league meetings for Cradley, but he guested enough in other league matches for other teams to have gained a new average like Lawlor and others have in season previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 He has to be re-assesed as he may have only done 3 league meetings for Cradley, but he guested enough in other league matches for other teams to have gained a new average like Lawlor and others have in season previously. The provision to give a rider a new average after 4 matches only applies if the rider is unattached (16.2.8), Richard Hall has an established average for Cradley of 6.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Should not even be riding in that League,no wonder the sport is in the mess it is in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 I hear theres a big spat going on between Richard Hall and Cradley re him picking and choosing his meetings, presumably to keep is average down for next season, I can see why younger riders do that but in Halls case this is not the situation, when Birmingham tried to sign him last season, as short term replacement for Tom Perry is average was 10.54, for whatever reason he is now on a 6.. average do you think is average should be re assessed Cradley's view of the situation. http://www.cradleyheathens.co/news.php?extend.1749 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ren Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Surely he should receive a ban of some sort? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Fair play to cradley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudtobeaBrummie Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Fair play to cradley Agreed if clubs were more open with this sort of information we as fans would have more sympathy for them and more likely to make a stand with them. If this goes unpunished if proven true would be a joke when hes 16 year old step son received a ban for much less.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 If he was accepted as injured, then presumably Cradley would have been in receipt of a doctors note? If there was a doctors note, then just like with Craig Cook, shouldn't there have been a 7-day mandatory period of inactivity (to allow for recovery / recouperation / convalescence) ? Alternatively, maybe there was no doctors note...maybe this is a smokescreen to hide a more embarassing truth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Its clearly obvious what Richard Hall was doing he was riding 3 meetings so he didnt obtain an average and then he guests to earn extra money where he doesnt then get an average either, yet why he didnt ride In the hammer I dont know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 What concerns me is the fact that the comments on the Cradley website are attributed to Gary Patchett, the promoter that left his last two clubs in serious financial difficulties which required some serious action from others to keep the clubs in business. Hardly the sort of guy any sensible person would trust IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted October 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Well done Cradley Heathens, everyone realises that Hall is not a 6 point rider in the NL, he gets is average down to 3 in the Championship so he can ride in the NL on a 6, then he makes sure he only does 3 meetings to make sure he doesn’t get a new average but guests for everyone, with no thought for the Cradley fans, I saw him at Birmingham earlier in the season when he scored a 15 point maximum, if the BSPA allows him to start the season on a 6 who ever signs him will win the League hands down, BSPA make sure cheaters don’t win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Hunter Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 What concerns me is the fact that the comments on the Cradley website are attributed to Gary Patchett, the promoter that left his last two clubs in serious financial difficulties which required some serious action from others to keep the clubs in business. Hardly the sort of guy any sensible person would trust IMO. Yes, and having read the statement, I imagine any irony meters in the immediate vicinity automatically set themselves to 'self destruct' mode when it was issued. Alternatively, maybe there was no doctors note...maybe this is a smokescreen to hide a more embarassing truth? That's a more likely scenario. Agreed if clubs were more open with this sort of information we as fans would have more sympathy for them and more likely to make a stand with them. If this goes unpunished if proven true would be a joke when hes 16 year old step son received a ban for much less.. Mr 'Up Front and Honest' Midland Robin actually telling the truth for a change? That'll be a first. Remember the Kyle Newman farce in 2010? Turns out we 'signed' him from a club which didn't own him. Patchett couldn't lie straight in bed.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Yes, and having read the statement, I imagine any irony meters in the immediate vicinity automatically set themselves to 'self destruct' mode when it was issued. That's a more likely scenario. Mr 'Up Front and Honest' Midland Robin actually telling the truth for a change? That'll be a first. Remember the Kyle Newman farce in 2010? Turns out we 'signed' him from a club which didn't own him. Patchett couldn't lie straight in bed.... Yet he is still allowed to remain involved in the sport. These are the types of situations that make fair minded people wonder why they retain an interest in the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted October 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Is “Mr Up front and honest Midland Robin”still not allowed into Perry Bar, and if so why, does the same apply at Swindon, and is it true that him and Mr Rossiter don’t talk to each other, due to L. Adams fairwell meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Hunter Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Yet he is still allowed to remain involved in the sport. These are the types of situations that make fair minded people wonder why they retain an interest in the sport That's what baffles me, but then look at some other chancers who should be nowhere near speedway and yet still are. Is “Mr Up front and honest Midland Robin”still not allowed into Perry Bar, and if so why No, he isn't, because technically, he still owes the GRA a load of rent money from 2010. A substantial five figure sum is what I've heard, and Tony Mole had to pay up prior to the 2011 season. Would you allow a tenant who had upped and gone and hadn't paid you any rent back into any of your properties? Breedon Aggregates also supplied the shale that year, and apparently they weren't paid either, so that's another bill the redoubtable Mr Mole had to settle in all likelihood. Edited November 1, 2017 by Leicester Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 The provision to give a rider a new average after 4 matches only applies if the rider is unattached (16.2.8), Richard Hall has an established average for Cradley of 6.00.It's not an established average it was assessed at 6 through the conversion method. So it stands to reason that a clearly low assessed average can be re assessed. If he is not reassessed it gives the green light to any rider nearing the end of Thier career to lower there upper league averages and take a season of easy pay days in the national league. There is a place for riders like Hall in the league but only on thier true averages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 GP run up a debt at PB just short of 30k wasnt it I seem to recall reading somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 Ban Richard Hall , he shouldnt get a licence anyway if the SCB has some balls and stood up for the suppliers to speedway who are owed money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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