PHILIPRISING Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 DON'T assume anything ... just wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said: DON'T assume anything ... just wait and see. Not sure what the big secret is, unless of course the FIM/BSI haven't actually worked out what the format is going to be. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 BSI's resident forum member, Mr Rising, loves drip-feeding information - then he sits back to enjoy watching us fools get our suppositions wrong (most of the time) I'm not holding my breath for him to provide anything meaningful while he can keep playing his silly games, massaging his ego 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 SOIMETHING I learned in my profession decades ago is that if someone tells you something in confidence you do not betray that. If you do, a second chance is rarely forthcoming. Agreement between the FIM and BSI to go ahead with the new format was only completed last month and, as I have stated previously, BSI wanted to get a new website, branding and a formal announcement in place but the FIM rather jumped the gun with half the story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Central Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) It is getting a bit silly to play this rather childish game of 'correcting' people when it suits. And then to finish each little bust of activity with this coquettish denoument of 'wait and see'. I do not get the impression that the full details will have been worth any of the teasing. The 'FIM Monster Speedway Damp Squib' starts in June. Edited December 19, 2017 by Grand Central 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, Grand Central said: It is getting a bit silly to play this rather childish game of 'correcting' people when it suits. And then to finish each little bust of activity with this coquettish denoument of 'wait and see'. I do not get the impression that the full details will have been worth any of the teasing. The 'FIM Monster Speedway Damp Squib' starts in June. YOU have already made up your mind so won't matter 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 54 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: YOU have already made up your mind so won't matter So have you . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRushbrook Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 Will Monster still be the sponsors?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, orion said: So have you . ACTUALLY I haven't. 1 hour ago, NickyR said: Will Monster still be the sponsors?? I WOULD imagine so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffster Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 12:17 PM, PHILIPRISING said: SOIMETHING I learned in my profession decades ago is that if someone tells you something in confidence you do not betray that. If you do, a second chance is rarely forthcoming. Agreement between the FIM and BSI to go ahead with the new format was only completed last month and, as I have stated previously, BSI wanted to get a new website, branding and a formal announcement in place but the FIM rather jumped the gun with half the story. WITH respect, Phil , you are playing both poacher and gamekeeper.... Maybe the FIM did jump the gun, through Armando Castagna....The thing is, the "Speedway Star", of which you are managing editor, published that story / interview with Armando ! You cant have it both ways ! You are course absolutely 100% correct when you state "SOIMETHING I learned in my profession decades ago is that if someone tells you something in confidence you do not betray that. If you do, a second chance is rarely forthcoming." SO....Dont say anything ! Dont tease, dripfeed, or anything like that, just stay quiet until the full facts are in the public domain ! Now, i realise that may not suit the journalist within you, but, as I said, you cant have it both ways ! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted December 23, 2017 Report Share Posted December 23, 2017 On 2017-12-22 at 11:17 AM, jeffster said: WITH respect, Phil , you are playing both poacher and gamekeeper.... Maybe the FIM did jump the gun, through Armando Castagna....The thing is, the "Speedway Star", of which you are managing editor, published that story / interview with Armando ! You cant have it both ways ! You are course absolutely 100% correct when you state "SOIMETHING I learned in my profession decades ago is that if someone tells you something in confidence you do not betray that. If you do, a second chance is rarely forthcoming." SO....Dont say anything ! Dont tease, dripfeed, or anything like that, just stay quiet until the full facts are in the public domain ! Now, i realise that may not suit the journalist within you, but, as I said, you cant have it both ways ! I agree jeffster. If you say A then you have to say B and if you don't want to say B then don't say A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 Almost four weeks since the original interview was given, still no official info. I count this from the absolute last deadline that the printed spar has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 4 hours ago, f-s-p said: Almost four weeks since the original interview was given, still no official info. I count this from the absolute last deadline that the printed spar has. Maybe it really will be tandem speedway bikesand they are waiting for the first to be built,so they can do some publicity photos? Happy X-mas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 On 24/12/2017 at 2:26 PM, iris123 said: Maybe it really will be tandem speedway bikesand they are waiting for the first to be built,so they can do some publicity photos? Maybe the Under-21 rider will ride in a sidecar attached to the tandem? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted January 2, 2018 Report Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 27.12.2017 at 11:55 AM, Humphrey Appleby said: Maybe the Under-21 rider will ride in a sidecar attached to the tandem? On the other hand...pigs may fly :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 Latest in the SWC saga is that Eskilstuna will now NOT host the Pairs World Cup in 2018. BSI have already had talks with Polish tracks Torun and Leszno, if no other country wants it. But they still hope that England will want to stage it ! Apparently BSI and the FIM plan alternate the World Pairs and Team events each year, staging the Pairs World Cup in the even years (2018, 2020, 2022, etc) and the Team World Cup in the uneven years (2019, 2021, 2023 etc). Gorzow in Poland has a contract to host the SWC in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 Why on Earth would England not wish not stage it? Wait... It is crappy pairs event... No one likes them. SWC could have a very simple formula. Event 1. 4 Team Tournament. Great Britain - Hosts. Germany Latvia Czech Republic Top 3 to race off. Event 2. 4 Team Tournament. Denmark - Hosts. Australia USA Italy Winners to final, 2nd & 3rd up to Raceoff Event 3. 4 Team Tournament. Sweden - Hosts. Russia Slovenia Slovakia Winners to final, 2nd & 3rd up to Raceoff Event 3 (Race off). Pairs. In UK. 1st event 1. 2nd event 1. 2nd event 2. 2nd event 3. 3rd event 1. 3rd event 2. 3rd event 3. Winner to final. Final. Poland (hosts). Winner event 1. Winner event 2. Winner event 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezza Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 I suspect it could be as simple as the Pairs event held at Somerset in the UK with two groups made up of 5 countries in each group! This would certainly contain costs and perhaps make it viable.... So what weekend is being reserved for this meeting 23rd June? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 HOPE to know more on Monday but don't think the format will be anything like the Somerset one. As I understand it, the plan is still to alternate yearly with the four-nation SWC and a seven team Nations Cup in which the riders from each country will race as a pair rather than as individuals which will encourage team riding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 if the competitions are alternated i wonder how the qualifying will work. will it be pairs qualifiers qualify for pairs in 2 years time, or will the SWC (4 team) go towards pairs qualification for the following year. could become very disjointed if it's on a yearly basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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