Jonnybegood Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 I wonder if Drew Kemps average will be assessed the same as Jamie halders was for the benefit of British Speedway.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Its different scenarios though. Halder was an unattached rider riding in league meetings which count towards an average, whereas Kemp has stuck to meetings which dont count towards an average: NLKOC, National Trophy & play-offs. In theory however, I agree that riders such as Kemp & Edwards etc shouldnt be allowed to ride for multiple teams as a 3.00 reserve especially when they prove that theyre better than a 3.00 average yet theyll still start 2018 on a 3.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Don’t think it was Jamie Halder, was it not Joe Lawlor at Cradley, last season Lawlor was guesting for every team in the NL, just like Drew Kemp is this season, on the end of season averages Lawlor was 3 as he hadn’t done 4 meetings in the league although he did something like 15 meetings in total, the league coordinator said because he did so many meetings he will have is actual average from the start of this season I would be very surprised if already NL Promoters have been on to the league coordinator to make sure the same thing happens with Drew Kemp, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Maybe Jane Moss can shed some light on this maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz_mft Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Can't see a problem with clubs giving a 15 year old a few meetings towards the end of the season tbh. Gives them a taste of team racing without screwing the lad over for his 1st full season in the sport. We moan that we don't have enough talent coming through, you don't want to kill their confidence from the off if they had to start as a heat leader for example. The idea of the league is to help bring these sort of riders on.I know my club is benefitting from it but I wouldn't care what club did it tbh. Really can't see a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnybegood Posted October 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 I can’t see the problem either, please explain it to Jamie halder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Dont think it was Jamie Halder, was it not Joe Lawlor at Cradley, last season Lawlor was guesting for every team in the NL, just like Drew Kemp is this season, on the end of season averages Lawlor was 3 as he hadnt done 4 meetings in the league although he did something like 15 meetings in total, the league coordinator said because he did so many meetings he will have is actual average from the start of this season I would be very surprised if already NL Promoters have been on to the league coordinator to make sure the same thing happens with Drew Kemp, Halder got given a average mid season, after he was dropped by Buxton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Halder got given a average mid season, after he was dropped by Buxton. Jamie wasn't dropped by Buxton - he asked to be released as he didn't want to ride in the main body of the team. Edited October 30, 2017 by Jayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Jamie wasn't dropped by Buxton - he asked to be released as he didn't want to ride in the main body of the team. Same result: he became an unattached 3.00 rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Same result: he became an unattached 3.00 rider. He did but not our choice, we were quite happy to have him in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) It's the current rules and ok and I've seen Drew ride for us (Eastie) and against us, best prospect of all the newbies including Brennen and Jenkins, just a shame he's not riding for us next year, envy Mildenhall! Edited October 31, 2017 by gazzac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moleman27 Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 I agree, Drew seems to pick up how too ride the tracks so much better than the others but will see with development overall when they start riding higher leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 The last time I looked, Drew Kemp had ridden in just 3 NL meetings averaging about 4.9. He may have been hitting big scores in other meetings where he was having 6 or 7 rides but overall from around 14 meetings he has been averaging around 5.7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Whatever Drew's current average is he is definitely a talented youngster who will go places in Speedway, that's a certainty if he avoids major injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high edge Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Drew Kemp is the best prospect i have seen since Dan Bewley,and i hope he does not get a heat leader role straight away he needs time ti develop. But i am sure he will progress to a heat leader during the season .By the way what as happened to Taylor Hampshire he was another i was impressed with but he seems to have vanished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Hampshire can be brilliant or he can be terrible, his bike runs or it doesnt. At Birmingham he is near on untouchable anywhere else well he isnt exactly a world beater other than the odd performance at Kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 Yeah he came to kent in a challenge match and scored a high teens score. He then guested for kent at Stoke in the the number 5 jacket and gave a good account of himself in the deep end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 There is a fine line between fairness and aiding development. I agree that the league is pretty much about training up young lads but while there are trophies on offer fair assessment of averages has to happen. Kemp has proved several times as a guest that he is far more than a three pointer and his average should really be assessed to reflect that. Not so much that it screws him over but to a more realistic figure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 Drew Kemp has stuck within the rules as far as i am aware and should not be penalised with an average of anything other than 3.00 to start the season. Its clear he has a talent and he will achieve a true average over the season and quite likely follow the footsteps of Jordan Jenkins into the main body of the team at Mildenhall. If a change of rules is to be brought in for the future then fine but you can't change them retrospectively just because it suits/doesn't suit certain teams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moleman27 Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 Well I hope for Drew its not reassessed, as he is a lovely young lad and so are his family. Is why so many Eastbourne fans ended up talking too his Mum at Eastbourne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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