Lakeside 2018

[SCB]

2 hours ago, cityrebel said:

Looks like a meeting for the derby and Joan club!

How very dare you! The oldies on here will be suggesting you have said they should be rounded up and killed now!

 

[RobMcCaffery]

1 hour ago, SCB said:

How very dare you! The oldies on here will be suggesting you have said they should be rounded up and killed now!

 

Oh dear SCB, are you still trying to defend your moronic and offensive ageism by sneering and ridicule? For the benefit of those that haven't seen this person's constant attacks on older supporters and blaming them for the ills of speedway elsewhere the worst example was "Why pander to them, they'll be dead soon?" Treat him with the contempt he deserves. 

It's pathetic that someone who passes himself off as vaguely intelligent can make such ignorant and offensive posts and when rightly criticised tries to ridicule those who dare to do so. Truly pathetic. 

Stick to regurgitating the rule book. 

Anyway, welcome back to the second tier, Lakeside, you have been missed and I hope you have a superb year. Those of you old enough to be despised by the likes of SCB will at least take some reassurance that they are unlikely to have to put up with the individual concerned this year since he is far too self-important to attend Championship level speedway. 

Despite my involvement at Rye House over the years I still have a soft spot for Arena-Essex, especially since I recorded the commentary on the first-ever meeting there in 1984.

Oops, that shows how old I am. I should be ashamed of myself, not having died yet. ;-)

 

 

 

Edited February 4, 2018 by RobMcCaffery

[SCB]

8 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said:

Oh dear SCB, are you still trying to defend your moronic and offensive ageism by sneering and ridicule? For the benefit of those that haven't seen this person's constant attacks on older supporters and blaming them for the ills of speedway elsewhere the worst example was "Why pander to them, they'll be dead soon?" Treat him with the contempt he deserves. 

It's pathetic that someone who passes himself off as vaguely intelligent can make such ignorant and offensive posts and when rightly criticised tries to ridicule those who dare to do so. Truly pathetic. 

Stick to regurgitating the rule book. 

Anyway, welcome back to the second tier, Lakeside, you have been missed and I hope you have a superb year. Those of you old enough to be despised by the likes of SCB will at least take some reassurance that they are unlikely to have to put up with the individual concerned this year since he is far too self-important to attend Championship level speedway. 

Despite my involvement at Rye House over the years I still have a soft spot for Arena-Essex, especially since I recorded the commentary on the first-ever meeting there in 1984.

Oops, that shows how old I am. I should be ashamed of myself, not having died yet. ;-)

 

 

 

It’s a cold, hard fact that 50% of people in the U.K. over the age of 65 will be dead in 10 years time.

So what about my statement is incorrect? They will be dead soon (in the scheme of things),  certainly soberer than 15-35 year olds that the sport does its best to alienate.

[arnieg]

50 minutes ago, SCB said:

It’s a cold, hard fact that 50% of people in the U.K. over the age of 65 will be dead in 10 years time.

So what about my statement is incorrect? They will be dead soon (in the scheme of things),  certainly soberer than 15-35 year olds that the sport does its best to alienate.

Your first sentence is plain wrong.

 

Life expectancy at 65 is a further 17 years on average. So well over 50% of 65 year olds will still be alive.

 

See https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/bulletins/lifeexpectancyatbirthandatage65bylocalareasintheunitedkingdom/2014-04-16

[SCB]

2 hours ago, arnieg said:

Your first sentence is plain wrong.

 

Life expectancy at 65 is a further 17 years on average. So well over 50% of 65 year olds will still be alive.

 

See https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/bulletins/lifeexpectancyatbirthandatage65bylocalareasintheunitedkingdom/2014-04-16

That stat doesn’t disprove mine. You have 4 old people, they are all aged 65. In 10 years time 2 of them have died aged 74 but the other two live until they’re 90. They have averaged 82 but half of them have not made it another 10 years.

[BluPanther]

1 minute ago, SCB said:

That stat doesn’t disprove mine. You have 4 old people, they are all aged 65. In 10 years time 2 of them have died aged 74 but the other two live until they’re 90. They have averaged 82 but half of them have not made it another 10 years.

Please go and take a happy pill   

[TonyE]

When one has reached the bottom of the hole, one should stop digging.

 

[ruffdiamond]

47 minutes ago, TonyE said:

When one has reached the bottom of the hole, one should stop digging.

 

but if you keep digging, eventually you'll fall out the other end

[liam]

Does anybody care about this drivel? 

[arnieg]

2 hours ago, SCB said:

That stat doesn’t disprove mine. You have 4 old people, they are all aged 65. In 10 years time 2 of them have died aged 74 but the other two live until they’re 90. They have averaged 82 but half of them have not made it another 10 years.

And I thought you were numerate and understood statistical distributions. A very poor attempt to justify your wildly inaccurate statement.

[waco]

I am 75 yrs old and i recon the sport will be dead before me the way it is going

[East End Fan]

What a gloomy prediction Waco...I happen to think that the actual racing that we witness ( at all levels) is better than it

was 20 years ago...riders improve more quickly on the fast lay-downs which I am told are easier to ride, so the spectacle

is really good and as a result of that I now watch more speedway than I did then. It is true that some of the internal

politics is crazy and that upsets some people as it does me at times....does not stop me going to watch what is still

the greatest sport ever invented   Thanks Johnnie Hoskins !!!

[Baldyman]

What's going on with the paragraphs halfway through sentences.   

[HAMMER180]

The cold hard facts are that if it wasn't for the so called drop dead any minute oldies

we wouldn't have any speedway now proberbly as these are the people who stuck with

speedway after the haydays of the 50,s 60,s and 70,s when tv dropped it and a lot of clubs knocked

it on the head. so show some respect. the real problem is with the so called decision makers who every year

bring in some new soppy rule like this years 1 x 8 pointer supposed to help british riders but has done the opposite

as all the win at all cost teams have done is bring in a load of foreigners who have never rode here before on

crazy low averages and the silly cant double up if over 6 points mugs two of our most loyal british riders.

as for getting the under 16,s to come to meetings the clubs must engage with them and get them involved during

meetings like lakeside are trying to do with the kids club and through social media meeting the riders

going centre green for few races being a mascot etc. as there are kids going now but all they do during the

meeting is run around playing silly buggers or kicking a football about.

all clubs need to get involved as otherwise I feel the sport will decline even further if possible.

signed a 50 something who believe me aint too old.

[waco]

Could not have put it better myself Hammer 180'!

[SCB]

Only speedway fans could take issue with someone pointing out that old people will die before young people.

Loving yet more personal attacks from the lovely old people on the BSF too. Love you all xx

[East End Fan]

Well there are clubs that are looking at the young people getting involved. I think the I.O.W. do stuff, down at

Plymouth I have been there and seen for myself the young fans getting involved on the track in the interval. I

think Kent run a  junior club and isn't our own club declaring that they are to do something similar ?  And I'm sure

these are not isolated things.  I know that a big number of fans are over 50's, but I also see whole families watching

the racing, especially where there are seated areas so that the parents can keep the children near them.  So I am

NOT gloomy about the future of the racing, just worry about some of the silly rules as mentioned by Hammer 180.

[SCB]

On 04/02/2018 at 4:00 PM, arnieg said:

And I thought you were numerate and understood statistical distributions. A very poor attempt to justify your wildly inaccurate statement.

Sorry, I thought you were being facetious, if you're being serious I'll give you a serious reply.

I said half of those over 65 will be dead in 10 years, you proved that half of 65 year old won't be dead. I could take 85 year olds and prove that on average they die in 6 years. Or 90 year old that die in 4.5 years on average.

 

"50% of people in the U.K. over the age of 65 will be dead in 10 years time" as I posted is NOT "50% of people in the UK aged 65 will be dead in 10 years time" as you have proved. For the record, it's actually around about the age of 76 that you die in 10 years and half the people aged over 65 are under the age of 76 (so  half will be over 76). My statement was correct, half of people OVER the age of 65 will be dead in 10 years time. It's actually about 48.2% of people aged over 65 who will be dead in 10 years if we're being pedantic. 

 

On 04/02/2018 at 1:11 PM, TonyE said:

When one has reached the bottom of the hole, one should stop digging.

 

Except I'm not wrong. 50% of people over the age of 65 will be dead in 10 years time and old people will die before young people.

[TonyE]

My reference was more along the lines of unnecessarily prolonging a topic where 'agreement' is unlikely (you have made your point, time to let it rest).

[marko]

Can we get back on topic please, the picture shown of the fans forum could be any club in the land, not just Lakeside, every club has young and older fans, just that the older ones tend to follow their clubs closer because its more of a social thing for them where as the young and middle aged have their education and work based lifestyles which keep them busy.