dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I assume the line-up must be right as it has been announced on the BSPA website. That section is just for rider announcements made by the clubs. There is a line in the text that states all teams are subject to BSPA ratification. You would however hope that the correct averages/conversion rate are known by promoters - but its not a given..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) On the 2018 thread it has ZW as a 2 pointer..That's defo not right..he has prem average. So it should be 4.21 minus reduction if he gets one Edited December 8, 2017 by baldyman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) He 'acheived' a two point average for Somerset in 2016 though did he not? Edited December 8, 2017 by Gordon Bennett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Zach on a 2.00 average, lovely stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 He 'acheived' a two point average for Somerset in 2016 though did he not?It was previously possible for a 2nd tier rider to 'dip their toe' in the top league in the knowledge that they could re enter tier 2 after 1 season out on the previously achieved average rather than a conversion if it didnt work out rather than be saddled with an unattractive conversion. However ZW is not dropping back down - he is doubling up - so it isnt that it hasnt worked out. Also with the reset of averages in 2017 that realligned makes the situation less relevant going forward. Zach on a 2.00 average, lovely stuff.Even using his 2016 figure he was above 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRushbrook Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Potential top 4 material. As we at Lakeside well know, injuries play their part many times in a season so nothing is a given. Would be special to win the title with an (almost) all British team though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I have took these figures from the final averages sheets from the 3 leagues Morris.................................................................8.72 CL Lawson...............................................................8.65 CL Newman..............................................................6.10 CL Clegg...................................................................4.15 CL Ellis...........................5.56 PL x 1.3 conversion = 7.23 CL Wajtknecht................3.21 PL x 1.3 conversion = 4.17 CL Morley.........................9.49 NL only so new rider 2.00 CL That is my take on it & it is well under on 41.02 even without the reductions for British riders having ridden in the NL for 3 years. With 1.5 points to play with, there must be some discrepancies there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I have took these figures from the final averages sheets from the 3 leagues Morris.................................................................8.72 CL Lawson...............................................................8.65 CL Newman..............................................................6.10 CL Clegg...................................................................4.15 CL Ellis...........................5.56 PL x 1.3 conversion = 7.23 CL Wajtknecht................3.21 PL x 1.3 conversion = 4.17 CL Morley.........................9.49 NL only so new rider 2.00 CL That is my take on it & it is well under on 41.02 even without the reductions for British riders having ridden in the NL for 3 years. With 1.5 points to play with, there must be some discrepancies there. Morley isnt fresh to the upper leagues. He has previous average from both divisions outside the NL and a 2017 Premiership figure of 3.29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Morley rode for Rye last season didnt he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Morley isnt fresh to the upper leagues. He has previous average from both divisions outside the NL and a 2017 Premiership figure of 3.29 I had Morley down at 3.88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I had him down at 3.85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Any advance on 3.85 before the hammer goes down (pun intended) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I have took these figures from the final averages sheets from the 3 leagues Morris.................................................................8.72 CL Lawson...............................................................8.65 CL Newman..............................................................6.10 CL Clegg...................................................................4.15 CL Ellis...........................5.56 PL x 1.3 conversion = 7.23 CL Wajtknecht................3.21 PL x 1.3 conversion = 4.17 CL Morley.........................9.49 NL only so new rider 2.00 CL That is my take on it & it is well under on 41.02 even without the reductions for British riders having ridden in the NL for 3 years. With 1.5 points to play with, there must be some discrepancies there. Last two, I think. Wajtknecht 3.00, Morley 3.85? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 So if we are being honest nobody really knows for sure do they? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 So if we are being honest nobody really knows for sure do they? Absolutely right!! Because the regs and conversion rate for 2018 havent been confirmed anywhere officially. I would hope your promotion have the right info but then they tried to sign Scott and Kennett and didnt know they couldnt so..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Absolutely right!! Because the regs and conversion rate for 2018 havent been confirmed anywhere officially. I would hope your promotion have the right info but then they tried to sign Scott and Kennett and didnt know they couldnt so..... I think they was both in the team Cook wanted before the agm when he said about having all British line up. I would guess they knew after the agm like everyone else so we got Morris, its worked out better for us anyway but I do hope the rule is changed for them both to get a ride in the championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 If my understanding is correct (Which it probably isn't) Lakeside's team doesn't fit??? 1. Nick Morris 8.72 2. Max Clegg 4.15 3. Adam Ellis 7.23 (Converted PL to CL average) 4. Kyle Newman 6.10 5. Richard Lawson 8.65 6. Ben Morley 3.85 7. Zach Wajtknecht 4.07 (Converted PL to CL average - 2.5% reduction, this is how Shane's average for Sheffield has been worked out) Total: 42.77 Someone tell me where I've gone wrong, because I'm sure it's me that's wrong and not the Lakeside promotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I have Morley as 4.38 PL to CL so even higher lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 What multiply are people using?? It's 1.3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Ritchie Hawkins was asked via Twitter to confirm the conversion multiplier.... 1.3 So Zach W should be 4.07 and Morley 4.17 (assuming 2.5% Brit reductions) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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