allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Why is it divided by 1.2? Surely it's x1.3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Zach 3.21 divided by 1.2😆😆Why is it divided by 1.2? Surely it's x1.3Thats more like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Why is it divided by 1.2? Surely it's x1.3 Yep, sorry. It’s 3.21 x 1.2 = 3.85, unless his 2016 Somerset average is used 2.63 (or 3 as the minimum then was). One of those three ... maybe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Yep, sorry. It’s 3.21 x 1.2 = 3.85, unless his 2016 Somerset average is used 2.63 (or 3 as the minimum then was). One of those three ... maybe! Try again. It's 3.21 x 1.3 = 4.17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpointfanatic22 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Morris and Lawson. Well happy with that. Very impressive top 2 for Lakeside and fair play to them but the signing of Morris is exactly what's wrong with the sport in this country. A guy finishing 3rd in the Premiership can double down to the Championship is shocking to start with but to then potentially come in on a lower average than he would in the Premiership is a joke. The double up rule was supposed to be about helping young Brits to develop, it's now basically anything goes. You guys are only playing by the rules and fair play but it absolutely stinks that this can go on in the sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Very impressive top 2 for Lakeside and fair play to them but the signing of Morris is exactly what's wrong with the sport in this country. A guy finishing 3rd in the Premiership can double down to the Championship is shocking to start with but to then potentially come in on a lower average than he would in the Premiership is a joke. The double up rule was supposed to be about helping young Brits to develop, it's now basically anything goes. You guys are only playing by the rules and fair play but it absolutely stinks that this can go on in the sport. I take your point but the fact is there will be something like 40+ riders doubling up/down next season now that most of the foreign imports have gone. We simply don't have enough riders to go round unless we reduce the number of tracks,mAnd nobody wants to see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Try again. It's 3.21 x 1.3 = 4.17 Why 1.3? Is that new for next year? This year it was 1.2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Why 1.3? Is that new for next year? This year it was 1.2. It came to light at the Peterborough fans forum that it has been changed to 1.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Very impressive top 2 for Lakeside and fair play to them but the signing of Morris is exactly what's wrong with the sport in this country. A guy finishing 3rd in the Premiership can double down to the Championship is shocking to start with but to then potentially come in on a lower average than he would in the Premiership is a joke. The double up rule was supposed to be about helping young Brits to develop, it's now basically anything goes. You guys are only playing by the rules and fair play but it absolutely stinks that this can go on in the sport. for me the lower average in the 2nd tier of british speedway just proves in my opinion that this league is actually tuffer and more competative the tracks are different how many reserves last year in "championship" were scoring big points in the premership but struggled in championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Enthusiasm building on here,is Cook now going to be looked at in a different light if he gets it spot on with the team building ??Hes started team building very well dont think anyone can doubt that but you wont hear from his bashers yet Waco they find it impossible to say anything about him or the team when any praise is due but I am sure they will be back if a signing is announced that nobody likes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Very impressive top 2 for Lakeside and fair play to them but the signing of Morris is exactly what's wrong with the sport in this country. A guy finishing 3rd in the Premiership can double down to the Championship is shocking to start with but to then potentially come in on a lower average than he would in the Premiership is a joke. The double up rule was supposed to be about helping young Brits to develop, it's now basically anything goes. You guys are only playing by the rules and fair play but it absolutely stinks that this can go on in the sport. Nick Morris was presumably allowed to ride in the 2nd Division last season because his lowish 2016 average for Swindon when multiplied by 1.2 put him lower than the other top riders in Division 2. Now having achieved a proper Div 2 average with Berwick and still being below the likes of Cook he is still allowed to ride. In 2017 his Swindon average when multiplied by 1.3 is now 11.33 which presumably would prevent him dropping down this season but because he did it last season the rules allow it. Very shrewd business by Lakeside but I would think the powers that be might be looking to prevent this happening in the future. Would say Scott Nicholls be allowed to drop down also on a converted average of 9.72. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) Nick Morris was presumably allowed to ride in the 2nd Division last season because his lowish 2016 average for Swindon when multiplied by 1.2 put him lower than the other top riders in Division 2. Now having achieved a proper Div 2 average with Berwick and still being below the likes of Cook he is still allowed to ride. In 2017 his Swindon average when multiplied by 1.3 is now 11.33 which presumably would prevent him dropping down this season but because he did it last season the rules allow it. Very shrewd business by Lakeside but I would think the powers that be might be looking to prevent this happening in the future. Would say Scott Nicholls be allowed to drop down also on a converted average of 9.72. Not quite sure what you are inferring that 'the powers that be' might be looking to prevent in the future. A CL average is a CL average, the issue surely is the conversion ratio to be applied when a rider does not have one. You cannot really have a situation where by circumstance/good fortune certain riders of a similar PL average can compete in CL whereas others cannot. Edited December 1, 2017 by TonyE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 It came to light at the Peterborough fans forum that it has been changed to 1.3. it was probly changed to 1.3 from 1.2, because it should have been 1.25 in the first place, (50/40, or 40/50) do the sums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Not quite sure what you are inferring hat 'the powers that be' might be looking to prevent in the future. A CL average is a CL average, the issue surely is the conversion ratio to be applied when a rider does not have one. You cannot really have a situation where by circumstance/good fortune certain riders of a similar PL average can compete in CL whereas others cannot. The rules are what need looking at. Morris, Cook, Masters & Schlein's BPL averages multiplied by 1.3 puts them all above 10 for BCL purposes which ought to prevent them from competing at an easier level but if they are allowed to do so then the likes of Nicholls should be allowed to do so as well who has no real BPL average but whose BPL average multiplied by 3 is lower than any of the afore mentioned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Looks like cook is splashing the cash. What average will Adam Ellis be??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Looks like cook is splashing the cash. What average will Adam Ellis be??? Too high I expect, 7.23 if his converted Premiership average is used. Also, I think he has too many continental commitments. Anyway here is my prediction:- Nick Morris 8.72 Richard Lawson 8.65 Justin Sedgmen 6.17 Kyle Newman 6.10 Ben Morley 4.28 Zach Wajtknecht 4.17 Tom Brennan 3.61 41.70 Ben and Zach's averages are converted as neither rode in the Championship last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89buttons Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Too high I expect, 7.23 if his converted Premiership average is used. Also, I think he has too many continental commitments. Anyway here is my prediction:- Nick Morris 8.72 Richard Lawson 8.65 Justin Sedgmen 6.17 Kyle Newman 6.10 Ben Morley 4.28 Zach Wajtknecht 4.17 Tom Brennan 3.61 41.70 Ben and Zach's averages are converted as neither rode in the Championship last season. Swap Brennan and sedgmen for Ellis and Bowtell that fits! Having watched sedgemen this year at Ipswich Id go for Ellis over him every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Zach Wajtknecht 4.17 Ben and Zach's averages are converted as neither rode in the Championship last season. Didn’t it used to be the case that you could drop back down a league on your old average, so Zach could return to the Championship on his 2016 Somerset average of 2.67? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Ellis will be in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 Hopefully joined by Zach and Newman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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