NickRushbrook Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Anyone know where Jason Edwards is riding next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, NickyR said: Anyone know where Jason Edwards is riding next season? Eastbourne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRushbrook Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 2 hours ago, tocha said: Eastbourne. Thanks, will be interesting to see how he develops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 5 hours ago, waco said: Ben Morley is owned by Rye House Marco as Tony E says Even better, it strengthens our case that no matter what averages our seven are said to be on, any other team could have made an attempt to sign them on those "disputed" averages. Ps Did Jason ever sign a prelim contract with us or does he become and Eastbourne asset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Unless things have changed, NL sides can't have assets or Zach would have been a Birmingham one. It caused some disquiet with the latter when we signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 Its confirmed in Speedway Star that Scott Nicolls had agreed terms with Lakeside before being told he wasn't allowed to ride in the CL. So just to be clear, Lakeside were not allowed to sign a rider that finished last season on a PL average of 7.78 , but it was ok to sign a rider that finished on an average of 8.87. Anyone fancy having a go at explaining the logic behind that ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 There isn't any. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMcCaffery Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) Yes there is, if you were following the discussion elsewhere. For many years riders with a top division (EL/SGBP) average over 6 were not allowed to double up in the second division (PL/SGBC). In 2017 all were allowed temporarily. The 6 point rule though has been reintroduced for 2018. Those riders over six who took up the option in 2017 are allowed to carry on in the second tier. Those like Nicholls who didn't are not. You may not agree with the logic. I don't but it is there, even if only at BSPA level. Edited December 15, 2017 by rmc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 With just two riders affected, both British, it makes little sense to even seasoned followers of speedway. What do the promoters hope to achieve by their stance? I would not even bother to try explain this scenario to someone new to the sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted December 15, 2017 Report Share Posted December 15, 2017 4 hours ago, TonyE said: With just two riders affected, both British, it makes little sense to even seasoned followers of speedway. What do the promoters hope to achieve by their stance? I would not even bother to try explain this scenario to someone new to the sport. Not true - Hans Andersen was rumoured to have been considered for Peterborough, and also the likes of Rohan Tungate, Max Fricke, Timo Lahti, Patrick Hougaard, Kim Nilsson, etc. would also be ineligible. So let's not try paint this as an anti-British measure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 I was going by the article in Speedway Star but accept that others are impacted (not sure though how many of them would want to ride at the lower level). If they do not get a PL offer then they are effectively banned from UK speedway which cannot be right. The problem is of BSPA's own making given that we have riders with 'superior' PL averages who qualify for a Championship berth whereas those with lesser averages do not. The law of unforeseen consequences applies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted December 16, 2017 Report Share Posted December 16, 2017 More stupid laws from the BSPA continuing to ruin the sport and riders livelyhoods.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) On 12/16/2017 at 9:51 AM, waco said: More stupid laws from the BSPA continuing to ruin the sport and riders livelyhoods.. The only way to have allowed Scott and Edward a team place in the Championship would be to introduce a ruling something like the following. (a). No rider who has a Premiership CMA of 8 or more can ride in the Championship unless he has an established average in that league attained in 2017. (b). Any rider who has a Premiership CMA below 8 is eligible to ride in the Championship in 2018 subject to either: (i) Having a team place in the Premiership for 2018 as well. or (ii) Having a CMA in the second tier during the previous two seasons. Point (b)i) would ensure a new or existing rider doesn't just take a soft option Edited December 19, 2017 by tocha typing error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 Hearing that the excrement is about to meet the oscillating device with regards to averages used by a number of teams. Let’s just says nobody actually knows what’s going on. It’s entirely possible that Lakeside are the only ones to have got it right. Hearing more than one team is being forced into changes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, SCB said: Hearing that the excrement is about to meet the oscillating device with regards to averages used by a number of teams. Let’s just says nobody actually knows what’s going on. It’s entirely possible that Lakeside are the only ones to have got it right. Hearing more than one team is being forced into changes though. OH eck . newcastle in trouble ! wonder who are the ones in the diamonds team that are not quite correct ! LOLOLOLOL......... Edited December 19, 2017 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, jenga said: OH eck . newcastle in trouble ! wonder who are the ones in the diamonds team that are not quite correct ! LOLOLOLOL......... Don't you worry yourself about our Diamonds. If we haven't signed anybody, we aint got it wrong yet. Edited December 19, 2017 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, SCB said: Hearing that the excrement is about to meet the oscillating device with regards to averages used by a number of teams. Let’s just says nobody actually knows what’s going on. It’s entirely possible that Lakeside are the only ones to have got it right. Hearing more than one team is being forced into changes though. Could it have something to do with those championship teams that have signed riders with dual averages from both leagues calculating from 2017 championship averages now have to use there premiership average multiplied by 1.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, New era Panthers said: Could it have something to do with those championship teams that have signed riders with dual averages from both leagues calculating from 2017 championship averages now have to use there premiership average multiplied by 1.3. Cant be that if Lakeside have it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, New era Panthers said: Could it have something to do with those championship teams that have signed riders with dual averages from both leagues calculating from 2017 championship averages now have to use there premiership average multiplied by 1.3. Wouldn't Nick Morris ave be wrong now too... 8.87 x 1.3 = 11.53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 19, 2017 Report Share Posted December 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Tsunami said: Don't you worry yourself about our Diamonds. If we haven't signed anybody, we aint got it wrong yet. but you have not signed anyone yet . so there is no need to worry . i was only pullin chains because you aint signed a rider yet , so at this moment in time you are out of the investigation . maybe further up the coast they should be looking at ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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