teaboy279 Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 To add to that list, a pre season column in the SS Jon Cook stated thier intention to return to top flight speedway but stated they were committed to the NL long term to develop thier own riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Fan Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 I presume that comment is based on the assumption that he has a stadium and track ? It's all gone very quiet about the new stadium that was being talked about. I have always been doubtful ( in spite of being hopeful) about that, new stadiums are very expensive no matter how modest they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Running a NL team can have the benefit of developing British riders who can become assets...First point is - can someone please remind Stoke about the first half of this statement? Second point is - I thought NL teams weren't allowed to have assets any more. Edited October 30, 2017 by uk martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 First point is - can someone please remind Stoke about the first half of this statement? Second point is - I thought NL teams weren't allowed to have assets any more. You're right. NL teams can't have assets but my post related to Swindon deciding not to run a NL team and as a PL club they can of course have assets. Bewley was signed as a Belle Vue asset last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 You're right. NL teams can't have assets but my post related to Swindon deciding not to run a NL team and as a PL club they can of course have assets. Bewley was signed as a Belle Vue asset last year. There's no point though...look at Sheffield. No NL team there but they can sign JPB from under Birmingham's noses, just as Lakeside, in their "EL" days signed Zach W. in similar circumstances. Running your own NL team is just extra cost and faff when you can just go round picking up riders from elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moleman27 Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 The JPB case your making is ridiculous as he is Sheffield born and he was brought through their so was always going too sign as a Sheffield asset. And I Zack's case being from Bristol you would have expected him too sign for someone like Somerset or Poole as an asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) There's no point though...look at Sheffield. No NL team there but they can sign JPB from under Birmingham's noses, just as Lakeside, in their "EL" days signed Zach W. in similar circumstances. Running your own NL team is just extra cost and faff when you can just go round picking up riders from elsewhere. I think that if Belle Vue give an unattached novice a team place in the Colts because they see potential worth nurturing and help him to develop, it is more likely he will sign for the Aces if offered the opportunity. Similarly, as Moleman27 has said, local riders tend to want to ride for their local club and are likely to do so if that club is in a position to offer them a contract at NL level to get them started.. That is why the Colts have a preference for local riders. Edited October 31, 2017 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted November 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 One extra team in the championship in 2018 so it looks pretty certain that Lakeside have moved up. Does that mean they will not run a NL team? After all they could not find enough dates this year so two teams should not be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moleman27 Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Two extra Championship teams actually I think, but one less Premiership team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbuck Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 The "National League no assets" rule has always rankled. It is unfair and totally unreasonable for the upper league promoters to be allowed to cherry pick any promising young rider that has been developed by a National League club - without having to pay any kind of transfer fee. (I am reliably informed that a nominal fee is actually payable - but that is is so minimal as to be not worth having.) The biggest beef is the fact that the National League Promoters had absolutely no say in the introduction of this rule, and personally, I can't see any reason why they shouldn't band together and produce a contract form of their own and get their riders to sign it. The BSPA rules can't over-rule the law of the land, and in legal terms, a contract is a contract surely? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 I very much hope I am wrong, but I suspect there maybe a doubt over Plymouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner85 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 The "National League no assets" rule has always rankled. It is unfair and totally unreasonable for the upper league promoters to be allowed to cherry pick any promising young rider that has been developed by a National League club - without having to pay any kind of transfer fee. (I am reliably informed that a nominal fee is actually payable - but that is is so minimal as to be not worth having.) The biggest beef is the fact that the National League Promoters had absolutely no say in the introduction of this rule, and personally, I can't see any reason why they shouldn't band together and produce a contract form of their own and get their riders to sign it. The BSPA rules can't over-rule the law of the land, and in legal terms, a contract is a contract surely? The National League is definitely the poor relation of the sport and is not treated equally. Nothing appears to have been done re clashes between Championship and National League whereby once again the NL team bows down and has multiple guests in a league match. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 The National League is definitely the poor relation of the sport and is not treated equally. Nothing appears to have been done re clashes between Championship and National League whereby once again the NL team bows down and has multiple guests in a league match. Its definitely something that the NL needs to look at during their AGM. But without co-operation from the Championship its hard to reach a viable conclusion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Certainly something that NL promoters need to look at both at the AGM and when completing signings. It would certainly make any rider who signs for a championship side who ride regularly on a Sunday far less appealing but its certainly important not to stand in the way of riders who are progressing. Its down to the promoters who make the signings to judge id they wish to include doubling up riders in their sides with the risk of them being missing X meetings a season or not but i would say that an initial max of 2 per team is plenty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 The "National League no assets" rule has always rankled. It is unfair and totally unreasonable for the upper league promoters to be allowed to cherry pick any promising young rider that has been developed by a National League club - without having to pay any kind of transfer fee. (I am reliably informed that a nominal fee is actually payable - but that is is so minimal as to be not worth having.) The biggest beef is the fact that the National League Promoters had absolutely no say in the introduction of this rule, and personally, I can't see any reason why they shouldn't band together and produce a contract form of their own and get their riders to sign it. The BSPA rules can't over-rule the law of the land, and in legal terms, a contract is a contract surely? Jayne Moss put an excellent post on about NL clubs and assets a while ago and although I cannot remember it all she said that it is very much a double edge sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 When is the National League AGM ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) When is the National League AGM ?Fairly sure they haven't got together to arrange a date to discuss it yet, let alone a date for the actual agm! Edited November 27, 2017 by gazzac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz_mft Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Been told around 2 weeks after the Premiership and Championship agm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Fairly sure they haven't got together to arrange a date to discuss it yet, let alone a date for the actual agm! They definitely had a meeting at RUgby in the last two weeks of the season...probably a pre agm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 I see teams are making signings other than 3 point reserves and maybe one key rider that fits into everything Im not sure how clubs are sorting it. I gather all clubs would want 40 but what about the teams that cant afford to pay big money like stoke Buxton and IOW surely the limit has to be bought down so they can bring out a decent team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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