Ipswich V Peterborough Ko Cup Final 2nd Leg 26-10-17@7-30ish

[wealdstone]

Panthers would most likely not have won but for Danny King being injured but he was and we did. Most pleasing thing was that other than BWD every Panther stepped up to the mark when the chips were down. It is not often that has happened.

[Flappy]

if we run.. ?

Every year

[CookieIpswich]

More there last night than the play off final, hope to see witches in the top league next season and hope the panthers are running

[scoobydoo]

Both Panthers visits to Ipswich this season ended in easy wins for the witches if you remove Kings scores from the two matches witches would of still won, so it shows the Panthers riders improved performance on the night and whos to say King may of not got the points expected of him similar to Holders 3pts at home in the semis v Glasgow

[sparks123]

The rule as written is designed to prevent a ‘tactical withdrawal’ of an under-performing rider to avoid the three-rides rule. Unlikely to be changed I would suggest.

Seems sensible.

Did Redcar have a conference league rider for someone who went back to Australia or was it for someone else (they had that many missing it was hard to tell)?

[mudflaps]

KO CUP FINAL REACTION:

Support was ‘awesome’ says skipper Ulrich Ostergaard (right) and Ipswich captain Danny King with the SGB Championship KO Cup. Peterborough Panthers captain Ulrich Ostergaard spoke of his delight after leading the club to another major crown. The Danish ace lifted the SGB Championship KO Cup last night (October 26) after Panthers triumphed 92-88 on aggregate against East Anglian rivals Ipswich. Panthers fans at the KO Cup final. It completed an honours double this season after an August success in the SGB Championship Fours and means Ostergaard has now starred in four trophy successes for the club. He was part of the team which famously won the Elite League back in 2006 and he also claimed the individual riders’ title in the second tier back in 2015. Ostergaard said: “We all race speedway to win trophies and to have lifted two of them in the same season is a great achievement.“It was fantastic to win the Fours on our own track during the summer and to add another piece of silverware against our local rivals is brilliant.“We left ourselves with a huge job to do in the second leg after allowing Ipswich to come back at us so strongly at our place last Sunday.“A lot of people didn’t think a four-point lead would be enough, but we were determined to win the trophy. “We’re one big family and we had awesome support in both legs. We also had a bit of luck in both meetings with important Ipswich riders getting injured, but that happens in speedway sometimes.“The league didn’t go to plan for us, but it has to go down as a great season after winning the Fours and the KO Cup. It’s great to have this success for the management and the fans.”But Ostergaard was left frustrated not to wrap up the latest triumph himself. He was stuck at the back in heat 14 when unable to find a way past Ipswich reserve Connor Mountain in a race won by Simon Lambert. Third place for Ostergaard would have sealed Panthers’ success, but instead they had to survive a last-heat decider when Chris Harris and Ben Barker successfully avoided being on the received end of a 5-1.“It was so frustrating to be last in heat 14,” added Ostergaard. “I completely messed up the start and Ipswich is such a hard track to pass on.“But we knew we had a four-point lead on aggregate and thankfully Bomber (Chris Harris) and Ben (Barker) were able to finish the job in the last race.“It would have been horrible to lose a cup final in our last meeting of the season, but now we can look back happy!”The celebrations will continue tonight when Panthers stage their end-of-season bash at the Post Office Club on Bourges Boulevard.

Read more at: http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/speedway/panthers/ko-cup-final-reaction-support-was-awesome-says-skipper-1-8217161

[BenR195]

Seems sensible.

Did Redcar have a conference league rider for someone who went back to Australia or was it for someone else (they had that many missing it was hard to tell)?

We had to use David Wallinger for Ellis Perks because he went home before the season ended

[cityrebel]

Big crowd at ippo last night. Reminded me of the good Friday clashes with Hackney & lynn. It certainly was a tense finish, and good viewing as a neutral.

[spanner47]

The rule as written is designed to prevent a ‘tactical withdrawal’ of an under-performing rider to avoid the three-rides rule. Unlikely to be changed I would suggest.

Good point, I'd (stupidly) forgotten that our sport is full of cheats, or people that manipulate the rules if you prefer. In that case let teams have a guest, if they go with R/R then it's tough if a rider gets injured, but if you're prepared to pay a bit more to get a guest in, then you should be allowed.

[2ndbendbeerhut]

Get shot of both rr and the guest rule. Hit the club's when they have riders that don't fancy it. If clubs are riding on set night's getting guests will be harder anyways.

Edited October 27, 2017 by 2ndbendbeerhut

[Bash]

Ipswich should get shot of Stephen Foster after he interviewed Nathan before heat 13 last night. Nathan looked like he had got his head clear again and was riding better after the heat 6 crash. Then he gets interviewed by Foster and the prize idiot asks him about the crash, what happens next he goes through the tapes in heat 14.

 

Yes the record books will show that Peterborough won the KOC but it shows why they didn't make the playoffs as they only beat a team comprising 2 heatleaders, 1 second string and 2 reserves over 2 legs by 4 points after we lost Rory & Danny after 1 race of each leg. The Ipswich team can hold their heads high for the way they kept on battling.

[Badge]

Ipswich should get shot of Stephen Foster after he interviewed Nathan before heat 13 last night. Nathan looked like he had got his head clear again and was riding better after the heat 6 crash. Then he gets interviewed by Foster and the prize idiot asks him about the crash, what happens next he goes through the tapes in heat 14.

 

Yes the record books will show that Peterborough won the KOC but it shows why they didn't make the playoffs as they only beat a team comprising 2 heatleaders, 1 second string and 2 reserves over 2 legs by 4 points after we lost Rory & Danny after 1 race of each leg. The Ipswich team can hold their heads high for the way they kept on battling.

I actually said the same about FOZ, well similar sentiment, although the words are not for printing on here!!!

[arnieg]

Get shot of both rr and the guest rule. Hit the club's when they have riders that don't fancy it. If clubs are riding on set night's getting guests will be harder anyways.

So what would Redcar's line up at Sheffield have been on Thursday 19th under your scheme?

[Crump99]

There's a difference between being fit enough to ride a speedway bike and fit enough to go for a meal with friends

 

I'll trust the opinion of a qualified doctor over a still picture which isn't very clear.

 

That's true. Tonsilitis would probably not stop you riding a speedway bike if you wanted to unless really severe, whereas you'd probably not feel like going out for a meal or making a 20 hour flight?

 

The absence of Panthers’ number one Jack Holder for the second leg of their semi-final triumph and both legs of the final has been a major talking point in the sport.

 

Holder has returned to his native Australia after being signed off with tonsilitis and Johnson admits it is a shame the 21 year-old couldn’t be part of the success. Holder also missed the club’s Fours victory back in August while racing in Poland.

But another rider who has been laid low with illness - second-string Bradley Wilson-Dean - did return last night. And his involvement was valuable despite the fact he failed to score.

 

“Jack has been signed off with a sicknote. Where he is, or why he is there, is not really my concern,” added Johnson.

 

“My focus was on the team - just as it has been all year with different things going on in the background - and the job of winning the KO Cup.

“Jack has been excellent this season and we would obviously have liked him in the side, but he wasn’t available due to illness and we have to accept that.

 

“Jack could have stayed and supported the boys, but he has chosen to go back to Australia and unfortunately missed out on a great night.

 

peterboroughtoday/speedway/panthers/more-ko-cup-final-reaction-witches-were-unlucky-says-panthers-team-boss 27/10/17

Edited October 27, 2017 by Crump99

[Baldyman]

Surely the team manager knew he went back to Australia to get fit for the gp??? Did jack not mention he was in the gp?

I bet you will find there is more to Bradley missing beforehand to. Sometimes you hear the odd rumour going about. Sometimes rumours turn out to be true?.

Edited October 27, 2017 by baldyman

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

Surely the team manager knew he went back to Australia to get fit for the gp??? Did jack not mention he was in the gp?

I bet you will find there is more to Bradley missing beforehand to. Sometimes you hear the odd rumour going about. Sometimes rumours turn out to be true?.

the sort of thing you would bet your wages on? - if you had any.....

[Baldyman]

Ha ha maybe....Anyway I know you are a big old school rap fan..What's your favourite Eric B and Rakim album???

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

With speedway in mind it could be 'Follow the leader'

 

But I think you have the follow up in mind

[Baldyman]

No no no... The previous album was the best

Edited October 27, 2017 by baldyman

[spanner47]

Ipswich should get shot of Stephen Foster after he interviewed Nathan before heat 13 last night. Nathan looked like he had got his head clear again and was riding better after the heat 6 crash. Then he gets interviewed by Foster and the prize idiot asks him about the crash, what happens next he goes through the tapes in heat 14.

For the first time I went up in the seats, couldn't hear a thing but never really liked the bloke when I could hear him. Also needed a light to see my racecard. Shame, you get a big crowd, many of whom haven't been there for years. Hardly sets a good impression, not too sure what our rent is, but surely we deserve better.

The good Lord said "let there be light, and there was light", but sadly it didn't extend to all parts of Foxhall, also noticed how dark the 3rd/4th bend was, soon the lads will have to attach headlights to their bikes.