Moleman27 Posted October 22, 2017 Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 I wondered what was going on in the pits when walked past, but was watching from the grandstand and I couldnt see anything with armo being injured. He seemed too roll in fine at end of last heat and even some of the other Mildenhall riders seemed too be calm and just getting ready too go so not even the Mildenhall promotion seemed too know Armo was down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I wondered what was going on in the pits when walked past, but was watching from the grandstand and I couldnt see anything with armo being injured. He seemed too roll in fine at end of last heat and even some of the other Mildenhall riders seemed too be calm and just getting ready too go so not even the Mildenhall promotion seemed too know Armo was down. Agreed, He did not fall therefore attracted no attention and showed no sign of a problem going back to the pits. No reason for the home side not to proceed with their end of season send off. Sour Grapes no doubt and the rant by adz is the lack of respect. I will not repeat his final word, it speaks volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 The Eastbourne riders come round in the same type of celebration each time they win a match and they are usually ready as soon as heat 15 ends. They would not have known Jon was hurt and just like Jon, many of them are the first on the track, even when a rider from an opposing team goes down, 90% of these young NL riders are the same. The wheel barrow was a stupid idea that 'one' of the track staff thought was a good one and it was Connor Dugard (Eastbourne Promption) that yelled across to them that he had arranged for the buggy. Dont forget that there is also an ambulance that the medical staff could have called for had then deemed it necessary. Not sure where you were but I was about as close as you can get, close enough to hear Jon yelling in pain. Get ALL your facts right before you post slagging of another team or promotion adz. No Idea what happened with Tom's Mum but 'classy bird' is an insulting comment about someone for once again, something you maybe only know half the story....if that! As for the match. How disappointing! Seriously, I feel for any MH fans (including Adz) that had to come down for that. Its bad enough when you have to suffer seeing a team of guests but when the couple of riders of your own team under perform, its just horrid. We have all been there! I would hope however that they went away feeling pretty good about Drew Kemp. This guy is going to be a star! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 No challenge matches at the start of the season,straight into Ko cup or NT,and make more use of June/July,never seems enough fixtures then,get the finals of the KO cup and NT done by the end of August,leaving September and early October for the last league matches and playoffs. Doubling up/down will probably scupper it though. Challenge matches if a team must but then how about crack on with league racing. Get those fixtures done and dusted by July and those that have not completed their home fixtures cannot enter the KO cup / Nat Trophy etc. Plus trebling up has go to go. Max 2 teams per rider to lower fixture clashes etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz_mft Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Agreed, He did not fall therefore attracted no attention and showed no sign of a problem going back to the pits. No reason for the home side not to proceed with their end of season send off. Sour Grapes no doubt and the rant by adz is the lack of respect. I will not repeat his final word, it speaks volumes.If that's the case why have I read some Eastie fans say you could see he was in pain and heard him shout in agony?No sour grapes at all from myself. Well beaten on the night. Was always going to be a tough meeting with our number 1 let alone without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) If that's the case why have I read some Eastie fans say you could see he was in pain and heard him shout in agony? No sour grapes at all from myself. Well beaten on the night. Was always going to be a tough meeting with our number 1 let alone without him. You are clearly someone that does not read all posts or only wants to hear one side of the story! Edited October 23, 2017 by stevec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz_mft Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) You are clearly someone that does not read all posts or only wants to hear one side of the story!Not at all. I'm entitled to my own opinion Are you saying that what I've said is wrong?Anyway I wasn't really replying to yourself lol Edited October 23, 2017 by adz_mft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 If you are entitled to your own opinion yet youre basing your opinion on others word then is it really your own opinion or one that has been made by another that you have added to to make it your own? Very disrespectful comments about a lady that I doubt you have met or spoken too. Im sure she would be happy to talk to you at Mildenhall Sunday or are you another keyboard warrior that will bottle it once called upon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Not at all. I'm entitled to my own opinion Are you saying that what I've said is wrong? Anyway I wasn't really replying to yourself lol I know you weren't, hence my comment that you do not read other posts. I was one of the people that heard Jon's yells of pain, explained that it was Connor that called for the buggy and that there was good reason for the Eastie riders not to have realised Jon was hurt but you seem to have blissfully missed that post and only discuss the negatives! I agree that we are all entitled to our opinions however. I just wish people all posted based on ALL the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz_mft Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I know you weren't, hence my comment that you do not read other posts. I was one of the people that heard Jon's yells of pain, explained that it was Connor that called for the buggy and that there was good reason for the Eastie riders not to have realised Jon was hurt but you seem to have blissfully missed that post and only discuss the negatives! I agree that we are all entitled to our opinions however. I just wish people all posted based on ALL the facts. In my defence when I went to reply your post wasn't there. I then had to go back to work and came back to the post so I didn't actually see yours until after I'd replied. Anyway can't do naff all about it now. Roll on Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 In my defence when I went to reply your post wasn't there. I then had to go back to work and came back to the post so I didn't actually see yours until after I'd replied. Anyway can't do naff all about it now. Roll on Sunday Lol, no worries. See you there maybe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunters Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Back on topic I thought Ref Gay did a good job keeping things going very promptly, if only we had him the previous week things could have been different. However on the two exclusions I gave him the benefit of the doubt in heat 3 when I thought Tom might have been at fault but he was better placed than me. Heat 4 was different, it was going into the bend not on the apex and gave me the perfect view. When Drew Kemp went in Mattie Bates was outside of him and there was acres of space between them. Then we had a typical Bates fall and the yellow light went on instantly excluding Kemp. A terrible decision. To his credit Drew did not make an issue of it but he was hard done by. After his terrific last to first in heat 2 he deserved better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrscambelt Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 So Jon Armstrong gets injured in the last race. Had to be lifted off his bike. Clearly in agony. Medical staff ran over. The Eastbourne riders then came out with flairs and celebrated whilst he was getting treatment. The medical buggy was being used in part of the celebration and they came out with a wheelbarrow to bring him back to the pits. A wheelbarrow ffs. A. the riders should have shown more respect and waited for Jon to be back safe and sound in the pits and B. the whole thing is ridiculous. 1 of the promotion team then went to go and either film or take a picture of Jon in the wheelbarrow. Jon then refused to go in it before the buggy was summoned over. Brennans mum started on a couple of Mildenhall fans for no reason. She thought she heard something but it wasn't from them. Apparently she was being held back, classy bird. The actions of the Eastbourne team/promotion was terrible. Jon is the 1st 1 on the track to anyone who has had a fall. Talk about no respect. Idiots!! Well what a load of rubbish lets sort this all out as i watched all happen. Jon lost control going into the 3rd 4th bend last lap and with out a question he had hurt something. when he was laying across the bike to cross the line you could see he was in a lot of pain.(Fact) The Eastbourn boys went on parade big win last meeting of the season at home and lots of celebration on the stock car track, During this time jon was on the inside of the speedway track with the medical staff being treated. (Fact) Somebody a member of track staff thought they would use a wheel barrow to help Jon. ( to lean on not to be transported ) so it was said later on. Medical staff asked to use the Golf Buggy to help Jon from the track (not a medical buggy) a golf buggy for collection and running staff around the staduim, The medical buggy as its now been renamed is also called an Ambulance. Jon returned to the pits then got changed with the medical staff to find a lady in the pits moaning on the way he was treated and how poor the service was, also how eagles were celebrating, moaning about everything she could monaing at the Eastbourne promoter, Track staff, Medical staff, at at one point the lampost in the pits to see if she could get any reaction. Jamie Easter or shall we call him Donald Trump. Moaned from the off. A problem he cold not get a Guest, the fact that the sun had been out all day also with Jenkins bulldozing Brennan, Kemp colliding with powell, starting gate movements? foul mouthing across the centre green at the Ref in front of children, Trying to get the meeting overturned because of the celebrations of the Eagles riders. (Fact) The best thing of it all was Jon coming out the changing room behing helped to his van by the Eastbourne fans, his wife had no care about him tas he tried to stop he making a fool of herself as he was happy the way he was treated and it was an old injury that he had pulled. Jons wife was still trying to upset as many people as she could before she exited the staduim, At one point she was even talking to the lampost and trying to get a photo of the offending wheel barrow (creative writting) At the end of the day Jon is a really nice guy to be mixed up in something that didnt seem a problem at the time unless you was a mildenhall supported / wife / or James Trump. Good lead for the Eagles boring meeting for home fans as Mildenhall never showed up. i wont be going to the last leg as i wont pay the entrnace fee for a double header. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armo Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Mmm. Clearly not knowing all facts what ever you think your seen was a lot different from what happened Jon was in a lot if pain and helped from his bike by 5/6 people someone than thought it a good idea to get a wheel barrow to put Jon in why the golf buggy was doing burn outs and the Eastbourne riders doing a lap of honour pulling wheelies with no helmets on with flares in There hand with only a wire fence between them and fans people drunk in the pits so if you think that's ok then carry on me telling duggard what I thought of it all was me feeling hurt and upset about the lack of respect for jon clearly you stated you know all the facts but you may want to get the facts right. mr duggard did agree with me over the wheel barrow and they didn't know what was going clearly the fact that it was a old injury is fact wrong again it wasn't even the same leg. The fact you don't know the full story. Yes Brennans mum who was drunk trying to start on a child was allowed to happen you believe what you want. but there was no one there yesterday that cared more about Jon than me x 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Mmm. Clearly not knowing all facts what ever you think your seen was a lot different from what happened Jon was in a lot if pain and helped from his bike by 5/6 people someone than thought it a good idea to get a wheel barrow to put Jon in why the golf buggy was doing burn outs and the Eastbourne riders doing a lap of honour pulling wheelies with no helmets on with flares in There hand with only a wire fence between them and fans people drunk in the pits so if you think that's ok then carry on me telling duggard what I thought of it all was me feeling hurt and upset about the lack of respect for jon clearly you stated you know all the facts but you may want to get the facts right. mr duggard did agree with me over the wheel barrow and they didn't know what was going clearly the fact that it was a old injury is fact wrong again it wasn't even the same leg. The fact you don't know the full story. Yes Brennans mum who was drunk trying to start on a child was allowed to happen you believe what you want. but there was no one there yesterday that cared more about Jon than me x On the subject. How is he? Whats he done? You probably didn't notice but he was applauded as he was carted off the track on the buggy, by several concerned Eagles fans. He certainly looked in pain and its not often you see a rider in so much discomfort that they are lifted off the bike. Mind you, I guess thats because they are normally sprawled on the track! For what its worth. That is the way the team celebrate each week and most the fans love it. I dont believe for one minute they would have realised Jon was in such discomfort. Had he taken a nasty tumble it almost certainly been different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moleman27 Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Well if you look on Eagles facebook page now you can see the apology from Eastbourne Promotion about what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 I never saw any of it. I couldn't get out of the stadium quick enough, after what was, a very uncompetitive meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrscambelt Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Mmm. Clearly not knowing all facts what ever you think your seen was a lot different from what happened Jon was in a lot if pain and helped from his bike by 5/6 people someone than thought it a good idea to get a wheel barrow to put Jon in why the golf buggy was doing burn outs and the Eastbourne riders doing a lap of honour pulling wheelies with no helmets on with flares in There hand with only a wire fence between them and fans people drunk in the pits so if you think that's ok then carry on me telling duggard what I thought of it all was me feeling hurt and upset about the lack of respect for jon clearly you stated you know all the facts but you may want to get the facts right. mr duggard did agree with me over the wheel barrow and they didn't know what was going clearly the fact that it was a old injury is fact wrong again it wasn't even the same leg. The fact you don't know the full story. Yes Brennans mum who was drunk trying to start on a child was allowed to happen you believe what you want. but there was no one there yesterday that cared more about Jon than me x To accuse an official Mrs Brennan of the BSPA / SCB a licenced official is a very bold statement, from where I was I didn’t see any of this. Again another angry outburst from Mrs Armstrong at the time. I would like to be a fly on the wall at Eastbourne and you could take Mrs Armstrong to the cleaners with slander. Slander, the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation. Edited October 24, 2017 by firstbendbunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevec Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Anyway, Any predictions for the score on Sunday, I shall we start a new thread? For what its worth, I am gutted Jon is out, I like the guy. I hope Mildenhall can put a good team out. I would much rather Eagles win by two points overall with a heat 15 decider, than have a walkover! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Not too keen on a 4pm start for a double header. It could be going on until late evening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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