Fromafar Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 49 minutes ago, Vince said: Reckon you need to have another look as his wheel wasn't on the grass, doesn't even touch the white line. He certainly "squeezed" Pawlicki up though and left him nowhere to go,he was behind him ,not really along side him. Think the ref got it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Shockster said: I agree in principle to what you say, but they're not going to get away with it anyway. Refs will pull them back if they jump. Also not sure about cheating being the right word more down to nerves IMO and who wants to see a 3 rider final when 4 is better. I see your point about nerves playing a part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: He certainly "squeezed" Pawlicki up though and left him nowhere to go,he was behind him ,not really along side him. Think the ref got it right. Pawlicki "squeezed" himself up. He had the entirety of the bend and opted to go where he did. Nobody forced him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyke Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Pawlicki "squeezed" himself up. He had the entirety of the bend and opted to go where he did. Nobody forced him there. Exactly & as always the throttle goes two ways, could have backed out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Vince said: In this case I can't see a single thing Doyle could have done to avoid the accident, he was on a decent line and the bike is settled and stable. If anybody was at fault it was Pawlicki as he was the one changing line and who was into the back of Woffinden. However in truth I don't think he did anything wrong either it was a pure racing incident and a case where all 4 should be allowed in the re-run in my opinion. Front wheel going over the white line is just another technique in my opinion, one that some do better than others and is no more or less dangerous than running people wide when going for the dirt. I agree and felt that Pawlicki was actually the cause - he tried to cut underneath Woffinden when Doyle was already there - he should have moved to a wider line. Totally harsh on Doyle and the wrong decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Tough decision for the ref but I think he made the right one .... and took an age to tell everyone!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 On 5/12/2018 at 4:06 PM, Steve Shovlar said: Very good GP to start the series. What a shame the Czech GP is next. Gaters paradise at the Marketa. Some excellent racing with Holder doing very well. Thought Woffindens childish behaviour was very poor before the final. Firstly how can you complain about Tai's behavior when he not only goes out and wins it but wins it in that style!??!! Secondly, watch the last 2 Prague GPs. Far from boring Sir. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothorsen Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Mark said: If we use your system riders who have already attempted to cheat in the heats get a free pass to try to cheat in the Semi or Final. I don't see the merit in that. WE all want a level start so why encourage something that may stop it. If riders try to cheat they must expect to be penalised. True. And they usually get caught, resulting in further minutes of waiting for the heat. re-running for ages is no good. Happy to see the warning rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 On 13 May 2018 at 5:10 PM, PHILIPRISING said: APART from taking an eternity to exclude Jason Doyle for touching the tapes when it was obvious from the first replay that he had done so. And yet it took a few viewings and quite a bit of discussion from the pundits before they saw it. I think he was right to take his time and make sure he was excluding the correct man as it was a close call. Just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lioness said: And yet it took a few viewings and quite a bit of discussion from the pundits before they saw it. I think he was right to take his time and make sure he was excluding the correct man as it was a close call. Just my opinion CANNOT speak for the pundits but was sitting in the stadium and it was obvious ... it wasn't close at all. Just my opinion Edited May 15, 2018 by PHILIPRISING 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 42 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: CANNOT speak for the pundits but was sitting in the stadium and it was obvious ... it wasn't close at all. Just my opinion The best freebies are always in prime position overlooking the tapes 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 WAS actually the other side of the stadium but a great view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: WAS actually the other side of the stadium but a great view. Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but I'm not sure bring sat in the stadium gives you the best view to analyse who touched the tapes first. Yes, the exclusion was correct, but it took a few views to notice that the other rider (Laguta, I think) also touched the tapes. My guess on the hold up was about deciding whether or not to exclude them both. Seemed pretty clear cut to me, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Grachan said: Maybe I'm misinterpreting this, but I'm not sure bring sat in the stadium gives you the best view to analyse who touched the tapes first. Yes, the exclusion was correct, but it took a few views to notice that the other rider (Laguta, I think) also touched the tapes. My guess on the hold up was about deciding whether or not to exclude them both. Seemed pretty clear cut to me, though. BECAUSE it was instantly replayed on the huge screens at the stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 4 massive screens above us, they showed all the replays the ref was seeing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GiveusaB Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Ref was indecisive from start to finish imo.....he also came across as a homer! There was movement in all the first 4 heats and he failed to bring the riders back on 3 of those instances! Having said that...Doyle was poor ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPHEN 333 Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 Thoroughly enjoyable weekend was had, great to see such a massive crowd, Warsaw in Poland is a great venue to have this GP, am already looking forward to the event in 2019, does anyone know of the dates yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 1 hour ago, STEPHEN 333 said: Thoroughly enjoyable weekend was had, great to see such a massive crowd, Warsaw in Poland is a great venue to have this GP, am already looking forward to the event in 2019, does anyone know of the dates yet. Enjoyed your company, my head is still booming!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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