uk_martin Posted October 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 ...it's understandable and quite surprising that another GB international hasn't yet copped for the same thing. So is this a damning verdict on the conduct, professionalism and discipline of the top British riders? No wonder they never do any good outside of their own back yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) Do people ever bother to read the rules. A rider missing a meeting because of sickness or a non related speedway injury must produce a medical certificate within 48 hours of the injury or sickness and is AUTOMATICALLY prevented from returning within 7 days by the SCB. The BSPA Management Committee have a discretion to permit a return within that 7 days. A rider who doesn't produce a medical certificate is suspended for his next home meeting and that suspension cannot be removed by anybody. Cook was given a 7 day period of inactivity so it appears he did produce a medical certificate. Otherwise, it would have been the mandatory next home match ban. We also know from what he has said that he is presently being prescribed medication so it would seem he would have no problem getting a certificate. Side effects are common with prescription medicines, just look at the printed list you get with every medicine these days and can be serious and debilitating. I suspect the same people who are critical of Craig would be the first to condemn him if he had raced, caused an accident and it was later discovered he was suffering from side effects that could have contributed to the accident. I can't imagine that any responsible referee would allow a rider to take part in a meeting if the rider told him he was suffering side affects from medication which may put him and his fellow competitors at risk of injury. What he did was correct and responsible. Edited October 17, 2017 by Aces51 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 I don't know how the hell you get a doctor's appt with 48 hours! its usually next week for me 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 I don't know how the hell you get a doctor's appt with 48 hours! its usually next week for meCould this be part of the confusion and the reason for the BSPA ruling,In Scotland you can self - certificate for work purposes for 7 days before you have to produce a sickness certificate from a doctor.So Cook can say he is ill( non speedway related) and not need a certificate.If the guy is ill fair enough ,BUT!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Do people ever bother to read the rules. A rider missing a meeting because of sickness or a non related speedway injury must produce a medical certificate within 48 hours of the injury or sickness and is AUTOMATICALLY prevented from returning within 7 days by the SCB. The BSPA Management Committee have a discretion to permit a return within that 7 days. A rider who doesn't produce a medical certificate is suspended for his next home meeting and that suspension cannot be removed by anybody. Cook was given a 7 day period of inactivity so it appears he did produce a medical certificate. Otherwise, it would have been the mandatory next home match ban. We also know from what he has said that he is presently being prescribed medication so it would seem he would have no problem getting a certificate. Side effects are common with prescription medicines, just look at the printed list you get with every medicine these days and can be serious and debilitating. I suspect the same people who are critical of Craig would be the first to condemn him if he had raced, caused an accident and it was later discovered he was suffering from side effects that could have contributed to the accident. I can't imagine that any responsible referee would allow a rider to take part in a meeting if the rider told him he was suffering side affects from medication which may put him and his fellow competitors at risk of injury. What he did was correct and responsible. As he was so ill on Saturday did he pull out of Belle Vues match on Monday at the same time ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 I think if you take an alternative medicine as prescribed by a doctor for a long term illness that has unanticipated side effects making you feel too ill to ride you stop taking them and hope after two days of abstainance the unanticipated side effects making you too ill to ride have passed by then allowing you to ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) I don't know how the hell you get a doctor's appt with 48 hours! its usually next week for me True. I keep away from doctors whenever possible and have managed to avoid any physio by keeping a low profile. I did need a 12 month review for my blood pressure medication though and have had to wait 5 weeks for an appointment. Going this afternoon so must keep relaxed and not read any irritating posts on here. Edited October 18, 2017 by Gemini 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpandroid Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) True. I keep away from doctors whenever possible and have managed to avoid any physio by keeping a low profile. I did need a 12 month review for my blood pressure medication though and have had to wait 5 weeks for an appointment. Going this afternoon so must keep relaxed and not read any irritating posts on here. Irrelevant, nothing to do with the thread. Back to the subject...... Not all illness is physical, people under pressure can suffer from other debilitating illnesses, the effects of which can change from day to day. Edited October 18, 2017 by sharpandroid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland Red Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Irrelevant, nothing to do with the thread. Back to the subject...... Not all illness is physical, people under pressure can suffer from other debilitating illnesses, the effects of which can change from day to day. No need to take that attitude with our Gemini, even if your name is "sharp...." 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Back to the subject...... Not all illness is physical, people under pressure can suffer from other debilitating illnesses, the effects of which can change from day to day. Irrelevant, nothing to do with the thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 True. I keep away from doctors whenever possible and have managed to avoid any physio by keeping a low profile. I did need a 12 month review for my blood pressure medication though and have had to wait 5 weeks for an appointment. Going this afternoon so must keep relaxed and not read any irritating posts on here. Perhaps I should stop Posting until this evening Gemini. Sincerely hope all goes well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Not all illness is physical, people under pressure can suffer from other debilitating illnesses, the effects of which can change from day to day. Tell me about it. At no point would Craig get any negatives from me, he clearly has some issues to get over but you'll still have the usual "just snap out of it" brigade chipping away on this thread Irrelevant, nothing to do with the thread. Of course it's relevant to the thread, people are saying Craig's purposely skiving meetings. It was pointed out that nobody knows Craig's issues because not all medical reasons have to be physical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) Perhaps I should stop Posting until this evening Gemini. Sincerely hope all goes well. Luckily I hadn't read sharpandroids post before I went. BP was fine thank you but probably high now. Irrelevant, nothing to do with the thread. Back to the subject...... Not all illness is physical, people under pressure can suffer from other debilitating illnesses, the effects of which can change from day to day. Miserable sod. You might not think it was relevant but I was following on from the post by ch958, you know the one about doctor's appointments. Lots of threads go off topic. If you want to be a mod and decide what's relevant or not apply to Phil. Edited October 18, 2017 by Gemini 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Of course it's relevant to the thread, people are saying Craig's purposely skiving meetings. It was pointed out that nobody knows Craig's issues because not all medical reasons have to be physical. Old news I know but it seems he's had a few issues in the past too. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/6907327.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted October 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Didn't Cook have sick leave straight after his embarrassing performance at Cardiff? Did he self-certify? Did he have a doctors note? Was he given a mandatory period of inactivity by the SCB back then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Asnt everyone drove naked at one time or another or is it just me And Cookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Didn't Cook have sick leave straight after his embarrassing performance at Cardiff? Did he self-certify? Did he have a doctors note? Was he given a mandatory period of inactivity by the SCB back then? That was a back injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Asnt everyone drove naked at one time or another or is it just me And Cookie Can't say I have because it wouldn't be a pretty sight even when I was his age. 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Asnt everyone drove naked at one time or another or is it just me And Cookie me and the ex Mrs drove all the way back from Blackpool to Wolverhampton in our undies but Im not going into the circumstances that lead to it , so yes I have 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 me and the ex Mrs drove all the way back from Blackpool to Wolverhampton in our undies but Im not going into the circumstances that lead to it , so yes I have Cookie was in court for it. Cookie was in court for it. http://metro.co.uk/2007/07/20/naked-drunk-driver-gets-banned-564097/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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