Glasgow 2018

[Gazc]

3 hours ago, Moranboys said:

to the person in the stand at yesterdays fours meeting and was hurling abuse at richie worrall,for goodness sake, get off his case.he knows that this season hasn't ,to his standards, been one of his best but he was trying his heart out yesterday and berating him like you did, which he obviously heard due to his response,does absolutely nothing for a riders confidence so just cut him some slack and if you are a true supporter then do what the name suggests.SUPPORT your team.

With all due respect if the fan pay's his hard earned to travel he can criticise if he thinks that is the best way to vent his frustration.

Whilst I don't  condone verbal abuse I can understand his frustration as Richie has been nothing short of woeful this season.

So no telling someone to get off his case when he can really do as he pleases is a bit off , I am just surprised Richie is still riding for us thus far, as a number 1 it has been woeful to watch most of the time.

Edited July 2, 2018 by Gazc

[Moranboys]

4 hours ago, Gazc said:

With all due respect if the fan pay's his hard earned to travel he can criticise if he thinks that is the best way to vent his frustration.

Whilst I don't  condone verbal abuse I can understand his frustration as Richie has been nothing short of woeful this season.

So no telling someone to get off his case when he can really do as he pleases is a bit off , I am just surprised Richie is still riding for us thus far, as a number 1 it has been woeful to watch most of the time.

i understand that but if you really think that hurling insults and calling a rider useless is going to help then it is a sorry state of affairs.i have down the years seen some underperforming riders that have ridden for sheffield but i would never shout abuse at them.i realise that the riders are out there to entertain but do you honestly think that richie worrall enjoys the form that he is currently in?yes supporters have a right to an opinion but does that give them carte blanche to berate riders who can actually hear the comments.not a lot of points equals not a lot of pay and confidence equals points, equals pay so why not just try for once and get behind the rider who wears your colours for your benefit.

[MD]

54 minutes ago, Moranboys said:

i understand that but if you really think that hurling insults and calling a rider useless is going to help then it is a sorry state of affairs.i have down the years seen some underperforming riders that have ridden for sheffield but i would never shout abuse at them.i realise that the riders are out there to entertain but do you honestly think that richie worrall enjoys the form that he is currently in?yes supporters have a right to an opinion but does that give them carte blanche to berate riders who can actually hear the comments.not a lot of points equals not a lot of pay and confidence equals points, equals pay so why not just try for once and get behind the rider who wears your colours for your benefit.

The vast majority of Glasgow fans are patient and have got behind all season. At what point do you cut it off.

[Gazc]

59 minutes ago, Moranboys said:

i understand that but if you really think that hurling insults and calling a rider useless is going to help then it is a sorry state of affairs.i have down the years seen some underperforming riders that have ridden for sheffield but i would never shout abuse at them.i realise that the riders are out there to entertain but do you honestly think that richie worrall enjoys the form that he is currently in?yes supporters have a right to an opinion but does that give them carte blanche to berate riders who can actually hear the comments.not a lot of points equals not a lot of pay and confidence equals points, equals pay so why not just try for once and get behind the rider who wears your colours for your benefit.

Richie has had the full support of the majority for the last three seasons me included, he is a very talented rider but regardless of this supporters are entitled to make there feelings known if they are underperforming.

If I or you were underperforming at our job we would soon know all about it.

As MD has said when is the cut off point for that support to wane, it would be a shame if the majority turn against Richie as in general he has been a good servant but it cannot continue the way it is, for your number 1 to perform the way he has is not good for him or the club.

Maybe now is the time for Richie to have a change off scenery would he want this to continue I very much doubt it as for the barracking from the fan I really see there point as that cut off point has now arrived,

[gmarsbar2]

7 hours ago, Gazc said:

 

As MD has said when is the cut off point for that support to wane, it would be a shame if the majority turn against Richie as in general he has been a good servant but it cannot continue the way it is, for your number 1 to perform the way he has is not good for him or the club.

Maybe now is the time for Richie to have a change off scenery would he want this to continue I very much doubt it as for the barracking from the fan I really see there point as that cut off point has now arrived,

Call yourself a Glasgow Supporter?  Well support the team!  

Just who's out there to replace Richie?

Yes he's not done as well as in previous years but he's still an 8 point rider.  It's a lot harder riding at 1 than 5.

Just look at the scores from No1 when Richie wasn't riding at No1.!  If changes are to be made he's not the one to be bombed out.

Not that I'm advocating any rider changes.   

[spin king]

I have no sympathy whatsoever for Richie Worrall.

The man is very fond of using social media to have a go other riders, fans, tracks and other teams.

Nothing wrong with been outspoken, but if you live by the sword you die by the sword.  

[Gazc]

6 hours ago, gmarsbar2 said:

Call yourself a Glasgow Supporter?  Well support the team!  

Just who's out there to replace Richie?

Yes he's not done as well as in previous years but he's still an 8 point rider.  It's a lot harder riding at 1 than 5.

Just look at the scores from No1 when Richie wasn't riding at No1.!  If changes are to be made he's not the one to be bombed out.

Not that I'm advocating any rider changes.   

Who are you to judge me or anybody, I am expressing an opinion on a rider that has massively underperformed for the team I have supported since the 70s, there are split opinions on Richie on here and in general I would imagine.

But don't come on here albeit I am guessing you are connected in some way and preach to me or any other GLASGOW SUPPORTER on our thoughts on anything really.

So yes I will call myself a Glasgow Supporter ARE YOU ?.

Edited July 3, 2018 by Gazc

[mac101]

If you really look at the team not one riders stands out we have been unfortunate in mechanical gremlins, riders not being fully fit every riders has had bad weeks and good weeks so dont think any riders should be singled out in this way and as Richie says in the star you can’t win every race no matter how good you are having helped Richie in the pits many times I can say he puts more thought into every ride between races than any rider I have helped he watches every race looks where the riders are getting best lines on the track and makes changes to suit sometimes when you try to hard it goes against you 

[Gazc]

38 minutes ago, mac101 said:

If you really look at the team not one riders stands out we have been unfortunate in mechanical gremlins, riders not being fully fit every riders has had bad weeks and good weeks so dont think any riders should be singled out in this way and as Richie says in the star you can’t win every race no matter how good you are having helped Richie in the pits many times I can say he puts more thought into every ride between races than any rider I have helped he watches every race looks where the riders are getting best lines on the track and makes changes to suit sometimes when you try to hard it goes against you 

A very well reasoned reply to my thoughts on Richie and very much appreciated and a good insight from a behind the scenes point.

 

Much more balanced than the call yourself a Glasgow Supporter pish, do this and say that etc etc.

 

Cheers for the insight .

[Shaggy]

10 hours ago, gmarsbar2 said:

Just who's out there to replace Richie? 

 

Money talks and I'm sure there would be at least a handful of riders if not more that could be approached. I'm not saying  it should happen but if it was then it could be possible

Edited July 3, 2018 by Shaggy

[Tsunami]

On 7/2/2018 at 10:22 AM, Moranboys said:

to the person in the stand at yesterdays fours meeting and was hurling abuse at richie worrall,for goodness sake, get off his case.he knows that this season hasn't ,to his standards, been one of his best but he was trying his heart out yesterday and berating him like you did, which he obviously heard due to his response,does absolutely nothing for a riders confidence so just cut him some slack and if you are a true supporter then do what the name suggests.SUPPORT your team.

I would put money on that the person shouting the abuse was not from Glasgow but a Redcar fan. Richie has been a regular target for them from when he was a Diamond and was unfairly blamed for a injury to Kus(first bend bunching), and clipping the back wheel of Summers as he decided to go around instead of under. Cries of 'hope you break your f*****g neck' from the terrace bar as he lay on the track, was just about the most inane comment I have ever heard, only to be repeated several weeks later when Tully made a dash to the line and came off with the same treatment. Can't accept 'it happens at all tracks" and it's certainly not the finest moments I have seen at the STMP. All Redcar fans are not like that of course, but it is worrying that after that, the discussions on here applauded the actions, and comments were also on the Bears forum when Richie and family put their case in defence.

  

[Moranboys]

apologies then if it was not a glasgow supporter but my post still applies if it is a redcar supporter.

[tyretrax]

I have a feeling that your assumption may have been correct Moranboys.

[allthegearbutnaeidea]

All we’ve gathered from this is that Richie Worrall isn’t very well liked for several different reasons, what a shame.

[baba]

I dont like Worral much either hes a nugget who rides a bike....thats all.

[Gazc]

45 minutes ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said:

All we’ve gathered from this is that Richie Worrall isn’t very well liked for several different reasons, what a shame.

We have also learned that apparently some of us are not real Glasgow fans for expressing our opinion.

All because my opinion differs from his, some on here live in la la land.

[gmarsbar2]

13 hours ago, Gazc said:

Who are you to judge me or anybody, I am expressing an opinion on a rider that has massively underperformed for the team I have supported since the 70s, there are split opinions on Richie on here and in general I would imagine.

But don't come on here albeit I am guessing you are connected in some way and preach to me or any other GLASGOW SUPPORTER on our thoughts on anything really.

So yes I will call myself a Glasgow Supporter ARE YOU ?.

Sorry to disappoint  you but I have no association with Richie other than he's a Glasgow rider, my team.

I ain't no keyboard warrior, I have followed the Glasgow home and away for many years, hardly missing a meeting. 

You said Richie has been woeful and his time is up.

Massively underperformed?  Yes he's had some bad meetings, I've witnessed them first hand. 

Lot's of mechanical issues but he's still averaged over 8 points this season at No.1!

I can judge that your option is wrong!  How can you possibly consider an 8 point average woeful?  

He's by his own admission not done as well as he would like but Glasgow don't have a divine right to win. There's only been 4 away Championship league wins all season.

Call yourself a Glasgow supporter, then support the team.  Your attendance on Friday night would be much appreciated, I'm sure;  cause Friday night crowds have been poor.  

   

 

Edited July 3, 2018 by gmarsbar2
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[Gazc]

10 minutes ago, gmarsbar2 said:

Sorry to disappoint  you but I have no association with Richie other than he's a Glasgow rider, my team.

I ain't no keyboard warrior, I have followed the Glasgow home and away for many years, hardly missing a meeting. 

You said Richie has been woeful and his time is up.

Massively underperformed?  Yes he's had some bad meetings, I've witnessed them first hand. 

Lot's of mechanical issues but he's still averaged over 8 points this season at No.1!

I can judge that your option is wrong!  How can you possibly consider an 8 point average woeful?  

He's by his own admission not done as well as he would like but Glasgow don't have a divine right to win. There's only been 4 away Championship league wins all season.

Call yourself a Glasgow supporter, then support the team.  Your attendance on Friday night would be much appreciated, I'm sure;  cause Friday night crowds have been poor.  

   

 

I never said you did have any association with Richie so sorry to disappoint , so let me get this straight Richie in your words is still averaging over 8 points this season can I ask were you get this from ? . Rolling Averages by any chance

Richie's 2018 average is 7.29 a drop of -1.23 on his starting GSA of 8.52 so yes he has been woeful for the most part , you can spare me the mechanical issue, you can give them some leeway but Richie and to a lesser extent Bomber have had season long mechanical issues. 

So I can judge your OPINION is wrong , how can you possibly consider a drop of -1.23 from his starting GSA acceptable ?.

And finally don't dare preach to me about supporting the team I have supported the team year after year and made financial outlay through sponsorship over the years during Stewarts tenure so your patronising tone is unwarranted and unwelcome.

You have your opinions and I respect that and I have mine and I do not really have to justify myself to you how big a Glasgow fan I am.

Can I ask what the keyboard warrior comment is all about nobody said you were one or is that just another patronising dig. 

[baba]

when he underperformes we lose.

[gmarsbar2]

20 minutes ago, Gazc said:

I never said you did have any association with Richie so sorry to disappoint , so let me get this straight Richie in your words is still averaging over 8 points this season can I ask were you get this from ? . Rolling Averages by any chance

Richie's 2018 average is 7.29 a drop of -1.23 on his starting GSA of 8.52 so yes he has been woeful for the most part , you can spare me the mechanical issue, you can give them some leeway but Richie and to a lesser extent Bomber have had season long mechanical issues. 

So I can judge your OPINION is wrong , how can you possibly consider a drop of -1.23 from his starting GSA acceptable ?.

And finally don't dare preach to me about supporting the team I have supported the team year after year and made financial outlay through sponsorship over the years during Stewarts tenure so your patronising tone is unwarranted and unwelcome.

You have your opinions and I respect that and I have mine and I do not really have to justify myself to you how big a Glasgow fan I am.

Can I ask what the keyboard warrior comment is all about nobody said you were one or is that just another patronising dig. 

 You said in response to my original comment  "I guess you are connected in some way "  and asked if I was actual a Glasgow supporter.  So I told you I follow the side home and away.  I didn't say anything about being a bigger/better supporter than you.

2018 real averages including bonus points 8.17 (Glasgow Tigers website), 16 bonus points so far this season. Yes it's down from 8.91 starting average but I freely admit Richie has not been as good this season as last.

But how can you consider an 8.17 average woeful?  That and your times up comments are what I had issue with.